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Salamande
05-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Ye olde Magic Box (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0605/game060517a.shtml) has a ton of new, high(er)-res, non-magazine-scanned images of the upcoming PS3 juggernaut that is FFXIII. Realtime? CG? You decide.

A few new details from the main page:

* Final Fantasy XIII will not have online functions
* Each episode will have different and independent characters, the stories also takes place in different times in history
* The only things in common for the 3 titles are Chocobos, Moggles, magic and myths around the Crystals
* The Legend of the Crystals is the central theme of the 3 games
* The latin word "Versus" in Final Fantasy Versus XIII means the change of a direction
* The latin word "Agito" in Final Fantasy XIII Agito means stimulus or moving violently, this game will have action elements implemented in the system
It's almost a guilty pleasure getting excited about a new FF title these days, but the buzz coming out of Japan about FF XII is giving me hope.

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 01:57 PM
I -would- get excited about this... but I don't plan on owning a PS3. I actually think this might turn out to be the first good FF in a LONG time.

Suicidal ShiZuru
05-22-2006, 01:58 PM
Looks good. Its hard to tell whats what though. One battle scrren looks graphically different than another one...

I wish we could get FF games on the PC... I rarely play consoles anymore...

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 01:58 PM
Looks good. Its hard to tell whats what though. One battle scrren looks graphically different than another one...

I wish we could get FF games on the PC... I rarely play consoles anymore...

One of them featured what looked like a rythmn meter...

Rakael
05-22-2006, 02:00 PM
Damn, that does look incredible.

jacktion
05-22-2006, 02:11 PM
Don't count the PS3 out yet. This could move a few systems.
Looks awesome.

Mozgus
05-22-2006, 02:13 PM
No thanks. I like to play my games, not watch them.

Lunar Blue
05-22-2006, 02:18 PM
Damn, that does look incredible.

Yeah, the first six pages. Then the actual game shots roll in and, well, not too shabby for a console that's in top-10 of worlds fastest computers :rolleyes:

Wyrm
05-22-2006, 02:18 PM
Looks awful purdy, but the cinematic shots and the battle shots are wildly different. Still looks pretty cool. So, is this actually 3 different games?

Kamalot
05-22-2006, 02:21 PM
Anyone collect comics?

In the 90s, Marvel came up with a brilliant idea. They realized that everyone would buy X-Men, Spider Man, etc, no matter what. They started making special collecor editions, same comic but with 4 different covers. If you wanted to have them all, you'd have to buy the comic 4 times. Then the comic industry tanked.

Anyone get the feeling that Square KNOWS you'll buy Final Fantasy cause it says Final Fantasy on the box? Don't you get the feeling that they are, more than just a little bit, milking people by releasing three versions of Final Fantast XIII? Sure, the game may be different, but all three say Final Fantasy XIII. How much do you think they'll make off of you if you buy all three versions? $180 + tax?

Are all three games going to be top caliber? Are all going to be REAL Final Fantasy games or are there going to be more like X2, the cheezy and cheap cash-in?

Over the past few years, Square has gone from a company that rarely ever does sequels, to a company that churns out fan-service drivel. The Enix merger has seen a total cash-in on Final Fantasy VII, sequels and even a snowboarding game for cellphones.

Final Fantasy XIII is the straw that broke the camel's back. The game isn't coming for at least two years, and Sony feels it necessary to dangle it in front of us like a carrot, why is that? Are people really going to buy a PS3 this fall, just to wait until late 2008 in order to play FF XIII?

Haven't other versions of Final Fantasy come to the PC? If PS3 prices itself out of the market, so that there isn't an install base of 10 million before 2008, Final Fantasy will go elsewhere. It happened before folks, it'll happen again.

Murtaug
05-22-2006, 02:25 PM
Don't you get the feeling that they are, more than just a little bit, milking people by releasing three versions of Final Fantast XIII? Sure, the game may be different, but all three say Final Fantasy XIII.


Wait... what? They are releasing three versions of XIII?

Ph00p
05-22-2006, 02:27 PM
Well thats how next gen stuff SHOULD look, so am I impressed by the battle scenes? If those are real time in game shots, kinda, but then uh NEXT GEN is supposed to just that a step up right? Why should we give these fat cats an extra pull on the jizzum stick for doing what they're supposed to do? Why that'd be like giving a kid a cookie for shitting in the toilet instead of on your bed.

Xerxes
05-22-2006, 02:29 PM
I -would- get excited about this... but I don't plan on owning a PS3. I actually think this might turn out to be the first good FF in a LONG time.

I don't know if Perigon and I have ever agreed on anything. This however, is one of those times. From the screens I can get a feel for what might end up being the gameplay and it shouldn't be a bad thing. Still not $660 worth though. What happened to Square's more multiplatform stance. FF 11 just isn't going to fly.

askheaves
05-22-2006, 02:52 PM
Why should we give these fat cats an extra pull on the jizzum stick for doing what they're supposed to do?

Best metaphor to date.

And, in this day and age, there is no excuse for a pre-rendered cutscene. Don't know if that's the case here, but it must be stated often.

Koi
05-22-2006, 02:53 PM
Anyone else not interested in playing a pretty girl who jumps around doing acrobatics and just blowing shit up? If I want to go shooting and slicing things in a orgy of carnage I'll go play DMC.

If there's anything to be learned from FFX and FFX-2, it's to stay away from things directed by Motomu Toriyama. Thank god there doesn't seem to be any concerts and singing involved in FFXIII... yet.

Kelegacy
05-22-2006, 02:54 PM
Generic Anti-Sony Rant
But if it was a Nintendo game you'd be creaming your pantaloons. Give it a rest, Kamalot. You have Crystal Chronicles, let's move on already.

I -would- get excited about this... but I don't plan on owning a PS3. I actually think this might turn out to be the first good FF in a LONG time.

What are you talking about? FFXII is getting rave reviews. Eurogamer was the last publication that I saw review it. Check out GameRankings for import reviews, at least english publications playing the import.

I feel dirty being excited about XIII before XII is out. Would be cool if Red XIII or a decendant made it into the game...

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 03:01 PM
But if it was a Nintendo game you'd be creaming your pantaloons. Give it a rest, Kamalot. You have Crystal Chronicles, let's move on already.



What are you talking about? FFXII is getting rave reviews. Eurogamer was the last publication that I saw review it. Check out GameRankings for import reviews, at least english publications playing the import.

I feel dirty being excited about XIII before XII is out. Would be cool if Red XIII or a decendant made it into the game...

Ya, but FFX got rave reviews too, and I hated that piece of crap.

Draft
05-22-2006, 03:19 PM
Amazing visuals. No doubt about it.

Serapth
05-22-2006, 03:20 PM
See, I loved Final Fantasy games when I was in the Nes/SNES generation. But Final Fantasy VII had people creaming their pants when it came out, people where buying PS1s like mad just for this game. At the time, I was an avid PC gamer. I think I was playing games like Fallout, then later Planescape, System Shock Baldurs Gate, Ultima VII, Diablo, etc... and hearing people rant about how Final Fantasy was the best RPG ever.

After playing the excellenet immersive PC RPGs it was really rather difficult to take FFVII seriously. A friend finally force me to get it as "ITS THE BEST GAME EVAR!1!!", and basically it boiled down to me as being pretty and shallow.

I know its a matter of opinion and mindset, but from my background, I rather have an ingrown hatred of the lust these games draw. I imagine had I not been a PC gamer, I probrably would have been part of the rabid fan crowd.

This mindset continues with me to this day. I just cant get excited about these kinds of games.

Chimpbot
05-22-2006, 03:21 PM
Ya, but FFX got rave reviews too, and I hated that piece of crap.

Quoted for a metric assload of truth.

FF10 is the reason why I'm not all that excited for 12. It killed virtually all of my interest in the series...and I used to be one of it's fanboys. Until I get a chance to play 12, I'm not going to even care about 13...especially because of the console it's on. I'm not paying $499(minimum) for the next Final Fantasy installment.

With that being said, Dirge of Cerberus is the next FF game I'm looking forward to the most; sure, it may be a DMC ripoff...but it's got Vincent and he sure is badass.

Echani
05-22-2006, 03:36 PM
The combat scenes may actually look decent in screenshots without shit compression, but I haven't seen any so I don't really know. I like the setting so far, so I may be interested in this - in 2008, if the PS3 is cheaper by then by an awful lot. I'm also kinda curious as to what 'Blizzrad (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0605/ffxiii65.jpg)' does.

EvilBob46
05-22-2006, 03:38 PM
I -would- get excited about this... but I don't plan on owning a PS3. I actually think this might turn out to be the first good FF in a LONG time.

To my knowledge, FFXII did not come out "a long time" ago. I'm sorry you didn't like FFX, but it was all around a good game that a lot of people liked. Yeah, the voice acting was crap and it wasn't as great as the hype made it out to be. Get over it, because frankly, it was a worthy game for the main series and a good RPG all around.

No thanks. I like to play my games, not watch them.

You know, most modern RPGs involve a lot of watching. Even story-driven Western RPGs that have come out recently, like KOTOR and Jade Empire, have hours of dialogue scenes you basically watch, with only the occasional player input. In fact, I'd say FFXII has more raw "hands-on" gameplay than KOTOR.

Venkman
05-22-2006, 03:41 PM
Don't count the PS3 out yet. This could move a few systems.
Looks awesome.

Truth. Those Japanese rated Square stuff at E3 tops over *everything* else. When Square Enix wises up and releases their own video game system- they will instantly take the top spot in Japan, and the Playstation will evaporate over night.

Oh, what an odd world that would be.

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 03:53 PM
To my knowledge, FFXII did not come out "a long time" ago. I'm sorry you didn't like FFX, but it was all around a good game that a lot of people liked. Yeah, the voice acting was crap and it wasn't as great as the hype made it out to be. Get over it, because frankly, it was a worthy game for the main series and a good RPG all around.

No, you get over it. The story sucked, the characters sucked, the art style sucked, the gameplay sucked, the voice acting sucked, the mini-games sucked, virtually everything about it sucked. If you don't like that, tough, it's my opinion.

EvilBob46
05-22-2006, 04:09 PM
No, you get over it. The story sucked, the characters sucked, the art style sucked, the gameplay sucked, the voice acting sucked, the mini-games sucked, virtually everything about it sucked. If you don't like that, tough, it's my opinion.

Considering everything about the game sucks, it sure got a lot of praise. (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197344.asp?q=final%20fantasy%20x)

Thanks for sharing your opinion though. Too bad your opinion is WRONG. Bwahahah!

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 04:11 PM
Considering everything about the game sucks, it sure got a lot of praise. (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197344.asp?q=final%20fantasy%20x)

Thanks for sharing your opinion though. Too bad your opinion is WRONG. Bwahahah!

You're right, it is a very popular (http://www.britneyspears.com/) game.

torrefaction
05-22-2006, 04:13 PM
I know its a matter of opinion and mindset, but from my background, I rather have an ingrown hatred of the lust these games draw. I imagine had I not been a PC gamer, I probrably would have been part of the rabid fan crowd.


I'll admit a deep love for FF7. I even played the hell out FFX despite it's many flaws. But...

They are fairly shallow. The stories aren't all they're cracked up to be (7 was excellent for it's time, but...I was playing Fallout as well.) And really, Square jumped the fucking shark. FFX-2, WTF? I tried...I really did. I had a genuine love for Square. I brushed off the inadequacies of FFX because of this.

But a stupid ass sequel about a popstar, and her female popstar friends. Playing dress up? FF-Spice Girls. This was the first FF I didn't play through. I just completely lost patience for it's inane childish crap.

I may buy FFXII. Out of respect for the series, and because I hear there's somewhat of a return to form. But if they are PS3 exclusive, odds are I'll never play it. There was a time when Square could have dragged me to a new system, kicking and screaming. It's too bad they dropped the ball too many times.

torrefaction
05-22-2006, 04:14 PM
You're right, it is a very popular (http://www.britneyspears.com/) game.

HAHAHAHAH.

I'm not even an FFX hater...I didn't like it nearly as much as I liked 7.

But that's just fuckin funny, no matter how you slice it. And an extremely valid point.

Echani
05-22-2006, 04:36 PM
But a stupid ass sequel about a popstar, and her female popstar friends. Playing dress up? FF-Spice Girls. This was the first FF I didn't play through. I just completely lost patience for it's inane childish crap.
It took me well over a year after buying FFX-2 to actually play through and finish it. I tried, good fucking god I tried to enjoy it. I've only played through FFX once because, well, the parts I enjoyed in it were just too few and far in between. But playing through FFX-2 was like digging through a mountain of shit to find a nugget of gold, and finding nothing but more shit. But hey, you're already covered in it, why not keep going, you never know what you'll find. More shit.

Not my best metaphor, but poignant nonetheless. Hopefully FFXII will be a less masochistic experience.

EvilBob46
05-22-2006, 04:43 PM
You're right, it is a very popular (http://www.britneyspears.com/) game.

The statement that a movie won 10 oscars carries more weight than saying a movie made $200 million. Critical reception vs popularity. You lose.

bapenguin
05-22-2006, 04:51 PM
man...I love me some Final Fantasy. It's been a while since I played 10, and I didn't touch that X-2 crap.

Dabombpizza
05-22-2006, 04:53 PM
The statement that a movie won 10 oscars carries more weight than saying a movie made $200 million. Critical reception vs popularity. You lose.
Equating an oscar to a Gamepro 5/5? You sure you want to do that?

Lord knows Driv3r destroys your point completely.

Cubfan
05-22-2006, 04:55 PM
The statement that a movie won 10 oscars carries more weight than saying a movie made $200 million. Critical reception vs popularity. You lose.

You mean like this (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/914356.asp?q=black%20%20white)?

Kelegacy
05-22-2006, 05:00 PM
man...I love me some Final Fantasy. It's been a while since I played 10, and I didn't touch that X-2 crap.
I never played X-2 either. I think I own it, but never booted it up once. I find it hard to play through consecutive JRPGs these days, and I have a TON for the PS2 I picked up used that I know I'll never get to. I still have some for the PS1 I never played--that's crazy. Back in my high school days I would have whipped through them all. I still enjoy JRPGs, but nowhere near the way I used to. Too bad Baldur's Gate and Fallout weren't a dime a dozen. :(

NoName
05-22-2006, 05:00 PM
*sigh* I grew up being a FF fanboy to the end. Then Square took my inner child and did some very naughty things. I'm still sore :/.

Still, I'm looking to the FF3j remake. I have little faith in new Square material but their old stuff was awesome.

EvilBob46
05-22-2006, 05:05 PM
Lord knows Driv3r destroys your point completely.

Driv3er. Indeed one of the most critically acclaimed (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/561852.asp?q=driv3r) games of our era.

You mean like this (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/914356.asp?q=black%20%20white)?

Played with reasonable expectations, and taken as what it really is (a real time strategy game with a few innovations, not some sort of be-all-end-all god simulator), it's a good game. If people did not follow the two guidelines above, it would've been a disappointment.

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 05:10 PM
The statement that a movie won 10 oscars carries more weight than saying a movie made $200 million. Critical reception vs popularity. You lose.

Oh noes! You did not go there! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears)

Britney Jean Spears (born December 2, 1981) is a Grammy-winning American pop singer
In the Zone went to the top of the U.S. charts in its debut week, selling over 609,000 copies. This made Spears the only female in music history to have her first four albums debut at number one. The record has sold 3 million copies in the United States. It also spawned the international number one and U.S. top ten hit, "Toxic," which won Spears her first Grammy in the category of Best Dance Recording. It was the 5th biggest selling song of 2004 world-wide. "In the Zone" has sold 9 million copies worldwide.

http://static.flickr.com/35/151541316_20d338a065_o.jpg

Echani
05-22-2006, 05:11 PM
I never played X-2 either. I think I own it, but never booted it up once. I find it hard to play through consecutive JRPGs these days, and I have a TON for the PS2 I picked up used that I know I'll never get to. I still have some for the PS1 I never played--that's crazy. Back in my high school days I would have whipped through them all. I still enjoy JRPGs, but nowhere near the way I used to. Too bad Baldur's Gate and Fallout weren't a dime a dozen. :(
After playing X-2 and Star Ocean 3: TTEOT, my dwindling faith in JRPGs was completely shattered. I took a break after that, then played Shadow Hearts: Covenant, and I was reminded that there's still some hope out there.

Johan
05-22-2006, 05:28 PM
Eye-candy aside (yeah, the graphics look great; won't a bunch of games this generation look great?), can someone explain to me the whole FF appeal? Admittedly, I haven't played one, but I have viewed trailers and been left very unimpressed, and I am an RPG fan, so it's not a genre-hatefest for me. Where's the appeal? I found the sound in particular to really suck on the trailer for the last FF...the music sounded like a cheap techno-track on a tinny elevator. And aren't the plot lines in these things about as easy to follow as a conversation with an individual with multiple-personalities? I'm open-minded...someone tell me why FF is so loved...and why it's never really 'final' either ;)

Kelegacy
05-22-2006, 05:29 PM
After playing X-2 and Star Ocean 3: TTEOT, my dwindling faith in JRPGs was completely shattered. I took a break after that, then played Shadow Hearts: Covenant, and I was reminded that there's still some hope out there.
Why isn't Star Ocean good?

Echani
05-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Why isn't Star Ocean good?
It's not as bad as X-2, but I found it a complete chore to get through. Didn't like the battle system very much, the characters weren't great, the story was pretty bland, it felt like the same thing over and over the whole way through.

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 05:42 PM
It's not as bad as X-2, but I found it a complete chore to get through. Didn't like the battle system very much, the characters weren't great, the story was pretty bland, it felt like the same thing over and over the whole way through.

I'm with you on that. I bought it along with Kingdom Hearts and Tales of Symphonia when Amazon was running their 3-for-2 deal. I haven't gotten around to playing Tales of Symphonia yet, but I found the other two to be extremly tedious.

EvilBob46
05-22-2006, 05:42 PM
Oh noes! You did not go there! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears)

In other news, the Spike TV Video Game Awards now present the epitome of reponsible and professional video game reporting and journalism.

[VSK]BadCRC
05-22-2006, 05:59 PM
In other news, the Spike TV Video Game Awards now present the epitome of reponsible and professional video game reporting and journalism.

It's a fact, look it up.



For some reason I'm really not even remotely excited about these new Final Fantasy games... I actually was burnt out on FFXI. Like, really really burnt out. The game sucked so bad, and still does, even after all the patches and expansions that have come out for it.

And now I don't want XII or XIII because I don't own a PS2 and am most certainly not buying a PS3 anytime in the near or distant future. But also the games have gotten shallow. I just don't have that same level of depth that was there from 1-9. Final Fantasy X was okay, but it felt short, and I really missed the obsurd difficult barely do-able bosses that would grace previous versions (The Weapons, Ozma, Kyuu, etc).

It almost seems like they've spent so much time and effort on making the games look good than they have spent time making the games engrossing and as fun to play as they used to. Then again, maybe that's just me being nestalgic.

Pumped'Up
05-22-2006, 06:00 PM
Awesome. Now this is a system seller!

rein
05-22-2006, 06:17 PM
The more PS3 stuff I see the more I want one. Honestly, you guys can bitch up the boards all you want but Sony is still going to sell a shit load of systems based on FFXIII.

torrefaction
05-22-2006, 06:23 PM
I just remember FF3(US). And I remember what Square could do, on THAT gear. Now there was a fucking story. Waking up on an island, after a cataclysmic event. Tracking your old friends down, trying to get pieces of Shadow's story. Kefka's tower. Relm.

COME BACK SQUARE!!!

torrefaction
05-22-2006, 06:24 PM
The more PS3 stuff I see the more I want one. Honestly, you guys can bitch up the boards all you want but Sony is still going to sell a shit load of systems based on FFXIII.

You must be seeing stuff I'm not.

Like the Killzone 2 trailer.

;)

nonchalance
05-22-2006, 06:48 PM
It does look awesome, and makes me want it.

But I know I'm not going to spend that much on a system to have it.

captainstrombosis
05-22-2006, 06:58 PM
You must be seeing stuff I'm not. ;)

Square is as big in Japan as Star Wars was in America when it first came out. The very starwars that had thousands of grown men running out to buy dolls...er "action figures".

I seriously doubt the japanese wouldn't eat up the PS3 and FFXIII like it was the last cup cake at an orphanage.

Mozgus
05-22-2006, 07:02 PM
You know, most modern RPGs involve a lot of watching. Even story-driven Western RPGs that have come out recently, like KOTOR and Jade Empire, have hours of dialogue scenes you basically watch, with only the occasional player input. In fact, I'd say FFXII has more raw "hands-on" gameplay than KOTOR.
And that's why I hate most RPGs.

Also, this is FFXIII, not FFXII. You have the wrong thread.

rainbowblack
05-22-2006, 07:20 PM
screenshots of the trailer are deemed "new" ?

kay, somone bother me when some REAL screenshots show up

eatme
05-22-2006, 07:31 PM
I can't wait to see this. When's it going to be in theatres?

torrefaction
05-22-2006, 08:25 PM
Square is as big in Japan as Star Wars was in America when it first came out. The very starwars that had thousands of grown men running out to buy dolls...er "action figures".

I seriously doubt the japanese wouldn't eat up the PS3 and FFXIII like it was the last cup cake at an orphanage.

Eh...1 point off for a lack of reading comprehension :).

My point was that the PS3 really doesn't have a lot going for it. It just doesn't stack up to it's rivals in value or price. Maybe it has more performance, but I've seen nothing that proves that.

But your right. It'll sell in Japan. Those whacky japanese.

Johan
05-22-2006, 08:31 PM
Won't somebody please explain to a FF noob why it's such a popular game? I absolutely hated the trailer I watched, and I'm a big RPG fan. Someone...anyone...Bueller...Bueller...Bueller (ah, hell...he took the day off)...

Borys
05-22-2006, 09:32 PM
PEOPLE!

Do not touch FFX-2.

It's the worse FF game ever, believe me.

Mason
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
I just remember FF3(US). And I remember what Square could do, on THAT gear. Now there was a fucking story. Waking up on an island, after a cataclysmic event. Tracking your old friends down, trying to get pieces of Shadow's story. Kefka's tower. Relm.

COME BACK SQUARE!!!
Sorry man, but piggy ain't coming back. FF6 is something like the second least popular FF game in Japan. I don't know what they didn't get about it, but the truth is that Square is aiming at a market that doesn't include you and me.

Zeal
05-22-2006, 10:34 PM
SQU/\RE no longer exists. Let legends die.

Lon Lon Rabbit
05-22-2006, 11:22 PM
With that being said, Dirge of Cerberus is the next FF game I'm looking forward to the most; sure, it may be a DMC ripoff...but it's got Vincent and he sure is badass.

Don't hold your breath.

I picked it up at the start of the year, gave it thirty minutes and haven't gone back to it since.

I know that's not a lot of time to judge it, but unless the gameplay significantly changes after that time I don't see it getting a tonne better.

It had plenty of beautiful cut scenes and FMVs, so if all you're after is a dose of FF7 Advent Children style visual pleasure, it's pretty awesome, but the controls are just so incredibly sluggish and imprecise that it ruins any of the ACTUAL action you have to take part in.

Maybe I'll get back to it some time, but it just seemed like the most basic controls and attacks were so fiddly that I couldn't see the game being fun to play at any time.

Heretic Machine
05-22-2006, 11:25 PM
Sorry man, but piggy ain't coming back. FF6 is something like the second least popular FF game in Japan. I don't know what they didn't get about it, but the truth is that Square is aiming at a market that doesn't include you and me.

Probably didn't have enough transvestites.

EvilBob46
05-23-2006, 05:20 AM
And that's why I hate most RPGs.

Also, this is FFXIII, not FFXII. You have the wrong thread.

I keep bringing up FFXII because as the most recent game in the main series, it's going to be the best indicator of the direction they'll take with FFXIII. This direction includes: fewer Full Motion Cutscenes, more action oriented combat that distances itself farther and farther from the old random battle system, etc.

theguido
05-23-2006, 05:37 AM
PEOPLE!

Do not touch FFX-2.

It's the worse FF game ever, believe me.

FFX-2 is a lot of fun, actually. You just can't go in expecting a deadly serious Final Fantasy. As long you can get into its' lightheartedness you can enjoy it. I haven't beaten it yet but I've had a lot of fun playing it.

theguido
05-23-2006, 06:16 AM
Eye-candy aside (yeah, the graphics look great; won't a bunch of games this generation look great?), can someone explain to me the whole FF appeal? Admittedly, I haven't played one, but I have viewed trailers and been left very unimpressed, and I am an RPG fan, so it's not a genre-hatefest for me. Where's the appeal? I found the sound in particular to really suck on the trailer for the last FF...the music sounded like a cheap techno-track on a tinny elevator. And aren't the plot lines in these things about as easy to follow as a conversation with an individual with multiple-personalities? I'm open-minded...someone tell me why FF is so loved...and why it's never really 'final' either ;)

Well, I've been playing Final Fantasy games since the first one, and it's actually pretty simple why I like it: the story, the atmosphere and the battle system. The stories, with a couple of exceptions, have been good to great, which keeps me interested in the stories. The atmosphere in the Final Fantasy games, especially after VIII have been really interesting and neat. Thanks to the talented artists they've been able to hire because the series' success, the world is often very unique and interesting. And since I love turn-based RPG's I like the battle systems--some more than others of course. Granted, it's not as good as something like say, Grandia's battle system, but they've all been good. FFX's, in my mind at least, was about perfect. I'm looking forward to FFXII's, but it'll be an adjustment.

I don't know if that answers your question, as no one really knows why they like anything, but those are the things I am aware of liking about the series.

I think part of the reason, though, I keep buying them is that I sincerely haven't played one Final Fantasy game that I didn't like. Yes, even the somewhat oddball Final Fantasy X-2 and the super-easy Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest.

CrysDark
05-23-2006, 08:33 AM
You are all defending yourselves to the wrong crowd. 90% of EvAv readers can't focus long enough for a 15 second cut-scene let alone a 10 minute one. Let them enjoy thier first-person frantic fest while we enjoy ourselvs some good ol' fashion storytellin'.

Johan
05-23-2006, 08:37 AM
theguido...thanks for the reply. Never having been in the FF neighborhood (I've been down the BG, NWN, IwD, Elder Scrolls roads, etc..), I wasn't sure what it was that attracted such legions of fans, and I've never had a PS (1 or 2), either. Appreciate the response; it is hard sometimes to explain personal preferences, too.

CrysDark...I can focus on stuff...what was that; what were we talking about....oh, yeah, focus on...what was that, again ;)

theguido
05-23-2006, 11:15 AM
theguido...thanks for the reply. Never having been in the FF neighborhood (I've been down the BG, NWN, IwD, Elder Scrolls roads, etc..), I wasn't sure what it was that attracted such legions of fans, and I've never had a PS (1 or 2), either. Appreciate the response; it is hard sometimes to explain personal preferences, too.

CrysDark...I can focus on stuff...what was that; what were we talking about....oh, yeah, focus on...what was that, again ;)

I grew up on Final Fantasy games and others of that ilk. Only recently have I played games like Morrowind. I loved Morrowind, though Oblivion left me a bit cold. I'm looking forward to play Neverwinter Nights II as well.

I like both for different reasons, though. The JRPG's I like because of the totality of the experience in terms of atmosphere, storyline, and fighting, whereas I liked Morrowind for the freedom and sheer variety available to me.