BioShock gets IGN's Game of E3

[bapenguin]

IGN released their Best of E3 (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p1.html) awards. Bioshock (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p7.html) (360,PC) ended up with the Game of the Show award.

When it comes to creating a masterpiece, it's all about the complete package: Visual style, sound, story-telling, theme, atmosphere, technology, and, of course, gameplay mechanics. After seeing the stunning demo of BioShock, it was pretty much impossible for most of us here at IGN to stop talking about the impression it left and the excitement of taking an intelligent journey down a very dark and windy path.
Runners up were Mass Effect (360), Mario Galaxy (Wii), and Spore (PC).

Pretty surprising as this game as been under the mainstream radar for sometime.

[gzsfrk]

I found this surprising, too. While I agree I would have included it in my Top 10, perhaps Top 5 of E3, but I think (subjectively) there were other titles (GoW, Assassin's Creed, even perhaps Heavenly Sword) which more solidly grabbed my attention.

Although I must say, out of all the game's listed, the one I most want to PLAY is Mario Galaxy. :)

[Varsity]

I think (subjectively) there were other titles (GoW, Assassin's Creed, even perhaps Heavenly Sword) which more solidly grabbed my attention.
Remember that we didn't get to see (let alone play) the demo that these guys did.

I think that putting Spore 'below' Bioshock is a matter of opinion, but then what chart isn't affected like that? They would certainly be sharing the top spot in a list of my own.

[Reanimated]

I think this game is probably STILL flying beneath the radar. I'm not sure why, but aside from the media buzz, I don't really see much talk on the internets about it.

[Achilles]

Why this game is flying under everyone’s radar is beyond me. It’s System Shock 2 with a new setting, amazing graphics and improved gameplay. This is probably my most anticipated title this year, and that's saying something given what else is coming out.

[Taco]

Because System Shock 2 flew under everyone's radar.

[torrefaction]

I can't wait. And System Shock 2 flew under my radar. I played it YEARS later.

[Borys]

Pretty surprising as this game as been under the mainstream radar from sometime.

Err... so did Deus Ex, System Shock 1&2, Arx Fatalis, Gothic 1&2 and Ultima Underworld 1&2.

Great, intelligent, non-console oriented games flop. Always has, always will.

I can bet $1000 that Halo 3 will outsell it 10:1, 360 fanbase just won't care that much.

[jeffbax]

From my other post(s)
BioShock E3 Awards

GameSpot Best of E3 (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6151435/p-28.html)
GameSpot Best Xbox 360 Game (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6151435/p-26.html)
GameSpot Best Action Adventure Game (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6151435/p-11.html)
IGN Xbox 360 Best Art Design (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709247p4.html)
IGN Xbox 360 Best RPG (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709247p2.html)
IGN Best Xbox 360 Game of E3 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709247p5.html)
IGN Best RPG Of E3 (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p3.html)
IGN Best Art Design of E3 (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p4.html)
IGN Console Game of E3 (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p6.html)
IGN Game of E3 (http://games.ign.com/articles/709/709355p7.html)
GameSpy Best of E3 (http://www.gamespy.com/articles/709/709100p16.html)
GameSpy PC Game of the Show (http://www.gamespy.com/articles/709/709100p6.html)
Team Xbox best Sound (http://e3.teamxbox.com/2006/awards/)
Voodoo Extreme Best Action/Hybrid Game - BioShock (http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/709/709510p1.html)

Every other game can eat poo :cool:


BioShock > You :cool:
Arx Fatalis was ok, but I don't know if its in the league of DX or SS2.

[Achilles]

Because System Shock 2 flew under everyone's radar.Good point. Hopefully Bioshock won't share System Shock's fate. I just figured there would be more excitement on this forum about the game, since most people here are pretty hardcore.

[RMan]

Well, it's always going to take a backseat to exclusive and first party titles during system launches, regardless of quality. The publisher doesn’t have the stake in the game that MS or Sony would have in it’s system selling titles, so they're not going to put the marketing money in that would make it really noticeable. Besides, I think it’s wise not to push a title more than a year from it’s release, takes the steam out of the closer to release hype.

[Grath]

Why this game is flying under everyone’s radar is beyond me. It’s System Shock 2 with a new setting, amazing graphics and improved gameplay. This is probably my most anticipated title this year, and that's saying something given what else is coming out.


Actually its a Q1 2007 game...

But yes, it was awesome!

[Varsity]

I just figured there would be more excitement on this forum about the game, since most people here are pretty hardcore.
There's plenty, just nothing to expend it on yet.

[Deadend]

I think the only reason that IGN, Gamespot ect. all have not been declaring BioShock as the Messiah of PC gaming is due to the fact the game is so far away. Remember, the writers on the sitee ARE games, so they know that a System Shock Sequal is worth paying attention to.

[Stormwatcher]

I'm not surprised. Bioshock was the best game in the E3.

[Jack B]

From my other post(s)

From my other post(s)

Quote:
BioShock E3 Awards

GameSpot Best of E3
GameSpot Best Xbox 360 Game
GameSpot Best Action Adventure Game
IGN Xbox 360 Best Art Design
IGN Xbox 360 Best RPG
IGN Best Xbox 360 Game of E3
IGN Best RPG Of E3
IGN Best Art Design of E3
IGN Console Game of E3
IGN Game of E3
GameSpy Best of E3
GameSpy PC Game of the Show
Team Xbox best Sound
Voodoo Extreme Best Action/Hybrid Game - BioShock

Every other game can eat poo


BioShock > You

I knew about Game of the Show from Gamespot and IGN, but not Gamespy too. That's impressive.

Mass Effect seemed like the other game that was either Game of the Show, runner up or on the top 5 lists. Too bad Microsoft didn't focus more on either of those at the Press Conference.

BioShock and to a lesser extent Mass Effect were surprises.

Also of note were the quantity of PC games getting Best of Show, Spore, Quake Wars or runners up/top 5.

Since, I've moved to 95% console gaming, I would love to see more of the 360-PC titles and/or Live Anywher stuff in the next year.

If they bring some of those great new PC games over to the 360, I'll be very happy. Crysis, Spore, Quake Wars especially.

[earthworm48]

I think the only reason that IGN, Gamespot ect. all have not been declaring BioShock as the Messiah of PC gaming is due to the fact the game is so far away. Remember, the writers on the sitee ARE games, so they know that a System Shock Sequal is worth paying attention to.


Maybe also because its out on the 360 for a few months before the PC version apparently, and is being shown on that format, and from what has been seen the interface has been designed around that format too. Doesn't mean the game will be any worse though its Irrational.

TBH, I can see this game selling a lot more on the 360 than Irrationals older titles on the PC (I own them all so I feel no guilt just kind of disappointed that they haven't done better in the past), then Irrational toning back the PC releases possibly similiar to Bioware and what Urquhart is saying in his interview here (http://uk.media.pc.ign.com/media/674/674385/vids_1.html). the insider one. I'll see if I get the time to re-watch and transcribe exactly what he says later.

[Eran Hawke]

Strange, no PS3 titles? Even mario galaxy was a contender, yet nothing to wow us on PS3, except the awesome price.

[Mason]

Props to IGN for being bullish on the future of the PC and 360. I take back 10% of the bad things I've said about them.

[Liquidize105]

HAHAHAHA~ BioSHock best show of E3? It wasn't even shown outside of closed doors.

It's the media darling of this year's E3. I love it too, but you gotta give it the proper award.

EDIT: It's game of the show, and best RPG. I see, that sounds more fitting. There was buzzing from a lot of the journals even before the show. BioShock must've delivered.

[Varsity]

It wasn't even shown outside of closed doors.
Your point..?

[Liquidize105]

You're quoting my point. It wasn't shown at the publisher's, so best of show is a misnomer. Aside from that, Assassin's Creed, Supreme Commander, and a few other are all closed door events.

Of the games that I saw, I think I'd give Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway the best of show award. Their audio setup was insane. :eek:

[F9Phoenix]

Bioshock was very very impressive, but the potential of Spore cannot be ignored, IMO.

[Stormwatcher]

It is above great. That's all we need to know!
I hope they don't screw up on the PC version. Irrational usually gets things right, so I believe they won't fuck up.

[F9Phoenix]

Strange, no PS3 titles? Even mario galaxy was a contender, yet nothing to wow us on PS3, except the awesome price.



Sony doesn't need games to sucker you into buying the PS3.

They have the ultimate killer app, Blu-Ray!!![/sarcasm]

[Varsity]

It wasn't shown at the publisher's
I still don't see how the manner in which it was displayed affects its quality.

[Koi]

Number one anticipated game if and only if the PC version lives up to or near the quality of System Shock 2. Sure is purty though.

[Last of the Red Hot Mamas]

God Hand was robbed.

[Draft]

Err... so did Deus Ex, System Shock 1&2, Arx Fatalis, Gothic 1&2 and Ultima Underworld 1&2.

Great, intelligent, non-console oriented games flop. Always has, always will.

I can bet $1000 that Halo 3 will outsell it 10:1, 360 fanbase just won't care that much.Apparently the fucking PC fanbase doesn't care either, because I guarantee HL2 sold more copies than Deus Ex, System Shock 1, System Shock 2 and Arx Fatalis combined.

[Feltoar]

This game doesnt need to slip under the radar. One of the first steps in stopping that would be the large websites calling it Game of Show just like they are. The more popular it is the higher the chance of some half-length equal quality expansion. Personally Id love that.

BTW, Deus Ex did extremely well for itself. I wouldnt consider it in the same boat as System Shock 2 in terms of being over looked.

I got into System Shock 2 many years after its release (Im mostly a console gamer) and I was extremely disappointed I didnt get to play it back when its technology was all new and spiffy. So Im definately getting BioShock the day its released.

[Snowmit]

You know, I'm fine with games like these slipping under the radar so long as they continue to make enough money to warrant publishers making more games of their ilk. I don't need everyone else to love the games that I love. I just need enough other people to love them that they keep getting made.

[torrefaction]

You know, I'm fine with games like these slipping under the radar so long as they continue to make enough money to warrant publishers making more games of their ilk. I don't need everyone else to love the games that I love. I just need enough other people to love them that they keep getting made.

Yeah. When they make too much money, you end up with EA. I remember General Chaos very fondly. Now, I buy almost nothing EA. Burnout 3, and FN not included.

[mightbe]

I never really give the E3 "awards" a second glance. It's like getting a party hat six months before your birthday.

Sure it's nice to get a party hat but it really doesn't mean a damn thing.

[Borys]

Apparently the fucking PC fanbase doesn't care either, because I guarantee HL2 sold more copies than Deus Ex, System Shock 1, System Shock 2 and Arx Fatalis combined.

True, true...

[Liquidize105]

I still don't see how the manner in which it was displayed affects its quality.
Well, I'm sorry if you don't see it. E3 as a whole really has nothing to do with the quality of the final games.

[ProfPuppet]

I can't wait. And System Shock 2 flew under my radar. I played it YEARS later.

I didn't first play it until a few months ago. Bad me.

[Wyrm]

The screens for this game look freaking amazing, but am I the only one wondering what the fuck this game is about? I know it's a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, which I've played, so I know the story. But what the fuck are guys in deep sea diving suits doing attacking you? And just what the hell is going on in these screens?

And I think Liquidize is right, you cannot give a game best of show that only a few people get to see. That's like saying "We know best, because we were there. You guys are neither cool enough, nor are you important enough to know just how awesome it is. You cannot fathom it with your feeble, regular, mortal human minds." That's bullshit. From what I saw, Spore gets my vote, and I usually hate sim games.

[Borys]

The screens for this game look freaking amazing, but am I the only one wondering what the fuck this game is about? I know it's a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, which I've played, so I know the story. But what the fuck are guys in deep sea diving suits doing attacking you? And just what the hell is going on in these screens?


Umm, dude, it's a SPIRITUAL successor not a FACTUAL one.

Spiritual meaning similiar gameplay, atmosphere and mechanics NOT similiar environments, NPCs and items.

Arx Fatalis was a spiritual successor to Ultima Underworld. There weren't any Virtues, Gargoyles, Moonstones nor Avatar, Guardian, Iolo yet it felt like a Ultima Underworld game.

[jeffbax]

Wyrm, why don't you go read like - the boatload of previews, it details all the stuff you are wondering about.

I hope there is a Shodan cameo :p
Though I guess that would be hard cause she wasn't invented yet :(

[torrefaction]

And I think Liquidize is right, you cannot give a game best of show that only a few people get to see. That's like saying "We know best, because we were there. You guys are neither cool enough, nor are you important enough to know just how awesome it is. You cannot fathom it with your feeble, regular, mortal human minds." That's bullshit. From what I saw, Spore gets my vote, and I usually hate sim games.

And I think this a narrow mindset. You absolutely can. This is a trade only show, and if you want to show off your game in the best of conditions, that is what you do. Gears of War did something of the same, if I recall. This is a deep game that relies on atmosphere, and that would not come across properly on the E3 floor. If you think otherwise, you're wrong.

On that note, I still think Spore is fucking awesome. But I believe, for me, it's a tie.

[Liquidize105]

Hehe, let's not be so absolute, alright?

I speculate that the reason it wasn't shown on the floor is a business one, not because the atmosphere wouldn't carry through (you just made that up didn't you?). GoW was shown to everyone, in addition the media got to play it as well. And why not? The game's ready.

There was a lot of buzzing on the media side surrounding this game even before E3. Everyone's excited to see it, and I have no doubt that the demo delivered on its promises. But if it's the game that's the winner, then it really has nothing to do with the show. Does it? You really got to give other exhibitors props for having a gigantic setup and showing their stuff off live, nevermind if it's playable or not.

To me, best of show/game of the show speaks to both the presentation on the floor and the quality of the game itself. That's my take. It should probably have its own category: Behind-Closed-Door Game of the Show, or something.

[Wyrm]

Umm, dude, it's a SPIRITUAL successor not a FACTUAL one.

Spiritual meaning similiar gameplay, atmosphere and mechanics NOT similiar environments, NPCs and items.

Arx Fatalis was a spiritual successor to Ultima Underworld. There weren't any Virtues, Gargoyles, Moonstones nor Avatar, Guardian, Iolo yet it felt like a Ultima Underworld game.


Ok, I did actually say, spiritual successor, so I know what that means. That's why I asked what it was about. I know System Shcok 2 was set on a space ship, so where is this one set? I didnt say the stories were the same. I guess I'm missing the previews or something, because I've only seen screens and been told that the gameplay would be similiar to System Shock 2.

And liquid is right again, there should probably be another category for the games that we dont all get to see. Atmosphere might be part of the presentation, but they could release a high def trailer to the masses over the net with 5.1 sound. I can relive the experience in my dark, cave-like computer room.