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gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:04 PM
<table width="100%" style="padding:2px; background-color: black"><tr><td>Kinect - First Impressions [360]

Developed by: Microsoft (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/kinect)
Published by: Microsoft Game Studios (http://www.microsoft.com/games/)
You pay: $149.99</td><td align="right"><img style="border:1px solid red;" src="http://evavhost.com/i/press/gzsfrk_head.jpg"></td></tr><tr><td>Release Date: November 4, 2010</td><td align=right>Matt 'gzsfrk' Williams</td></tr></table>

Like an evil, peeping E.T.

So I had a $100 windfall yesterday; I was invited to participate in a health care focus group where a research company essentially paid us to tell them that we didn’t like their Live Nurse hotline mailer for 2 hours. I did think it was a bit odd that, prior to a health care panel, they fed us hoagies, chips, and cola, but I digress. The end result was that I had a $100 pre-loaded Visa burning a hole in my pocket late last night. And what better way to spend it than to make a midnight Wal-mart run and pick up a shiny new Kinect? Well, there were probably several better, more responsible ways. But as a bona fide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16-AK3wQaTQ#t=1m20s) game reviewer, it can be argued that I have a responsibility--nay, duty--to familiarize myself with the latest gaming trends and technology. So despite my indignation at the hardware’s high price, I proceeded to Wally world where I ended up being the third person in line behind the electronics counter.

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As midnight approached and the woman behind the register began unboxing Microsoft’s delivery, I saw that they had 4 Kinect Arcade bundles at a price of $299 each (2 of which were bought by the mother and her sons at the front of the line) and 8 stand-alone Kinect units. The clock struck 12, the mouse ran down, and the line started to move. Strangely, while the Kinect Arcade bundles scanned just fine, Wal-mart’s POS system wouldn’t recognize the serial number data for the individual Kinect units and required a manager to force through each purchase. That wrinkle aside, I waited my turn, paid my $150+tax, and headed for home.

The first thing I noticed about Kinect, even as I was walking out of the store, was that the thing is heavy. Heft is typically equated with quality when it comes to electronics, and that was certainly the initial impression I received. This is no flimsy webcam--there’s some serious hardware packed into the weird, E.T. like frame of the Kinect. Unboxing the package, another feature that becomes immediately noticeable is that Kinect thankfully comes with a LONG cable--a solid 10 feet at least. While this won’t be useful for everyone, it’s essential for our home theater as we use a projector setup with the “media cabinet” which holds all our components hugging a side wall, which means any device that has to be in the middle of the floor is going to need a pretty long leash. You’ll also figure out pretty quick that the hookup for the classic 360 is a good deal uglier and more complex than the nice, neat single orange plug that goes straight into the Kinect port on a 360 S. If you’re using a non-slim 360, you HAVE to plug the Kinect to the rear USB port. That can be problematic if you’ve got a wifi adapter attached. But with that possibility in mind, the Kinect package also includes a USB extension cable so that users can plug their wifi adapter into one of the 360’s front USB ports. Ugly, but functional. In addition to tapping into the rear USB port, you ALSO have to plug in an AC adapter. Again, if you’re hooking up a 360 S, you only have one port to hook up. But if you’re using a non-slim, that’s up to three hook-ups/changes you have to make in your 360’s configuration. (I won’t even go into the fact that I have an HD-DVD drive thrown into the mix.)

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The setup for Kinect was really streamlined and effective. You plug in the Kinect and then the 360 prompts you that it needs to download an update for the device. Once the download is complete, the system restarts and you go straight into the Kinect setup, calibration, and tutorial. I was actually a bit taken aback by the way the Kinect, when it first came on, seemed to raise its head, scan the area, and then lock onto my face and, as far as I could tell, make eye contact with me. Creepy. The setup and calibration were easy and actually pretty fun once I first got to start waving my arms around while my on-screen avatar mirrored my movements. Once setup is complete, you’re given a brief lesson on how to use the device for basic system functions. This includes not only the gesture controls, but also the vocal commands which work surprisingly well. In order to go to the Kinect Hub--a special menu within the 360 designed to let your interact with your 360 using gestures or vocal commands, you can choose to either wave your hand while looking at the camera OR you can say “Xbox.... Kinect”. And yes, I’m sure that I’m not the only one who, upon issuing the command for the first time, had a giddy flashback to my childhood when I would watch Star Trek: The Next Generation and dream about the day when I could stand in a large, projected room and authoritatively state, “Computer... Arch.” I’m actually still smiling a bit just thinking about it. On the downside, when you go to set up a Kinect ID (where it takes various scans of you from different angles so that it can “recognize” you and load your avatar when a Kinect game is loaded and you walk in front of the camera) takes a crazy-long time to complete. Altogether, I was doing various poses and walking to different positions in front of the camera for about 5 minutes. That’s not so bad just for me, as it’s a one time thing. But if you have 8 or 10 regulars who come over to play, each of whom have their own Avatars on your console, it’s a significant chunk of time devoted just to getting set up.

Once you’re in the Kinect Hub, you can select from a variety of Kinect-enabled menus and applications including the new ESPN channel, the Avatar editor and marketplace, Kinect Video Chat, Zune Marketplace, last.FM, and others. Unfortunately, there’s no Kinect-enabled Netflix yet, which is surprising since they just released the new Netflix interface with the Fall update. Another nice feature of the Kinect Hub is that all options on that screen can by activated either by holding your hand briefly over the item you want to select, or by voice commands. To use the voice commands on the Kinect Hub, you again start off by saying “Xbox”. A menu pops up at the bottom of the screen with various options like “Dashboard”, “Next” (to view the next page of items on the Hub), and “Cancel”. Additionally, a black text box pops up underneath each item with a word or phrase you can say to select and execute that action, whether it’s a trailer, a game, or application. A very nice touch that works even when you’re laying well back in your recliner--a position from which the gesture controls typically do not work well, if at all. And despite concerns over the system being laggy, I could barely notice it, even when I was deliberately looking for it, and didn’t notice it at all when either playing a game or navigating the Kinect Hub.

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The only Kinect titles available at Wal-mart were Konami’s Dance Masters (http://konami.com/games/dancemasters) and a game I somehow hadn’t heard of called Adrenaline Misfits (http://konami.com/games/adrenalinmisfits). So the only Kinect-enabled title I came home with was the bundled title Kinect Adventures. I tried the dodgeball/breakout game briefly, and it was OK--pretty much exactly what you saw on all the late night Jimmy Fallon previews. But I was far more interested to try the three demos that came with it: Dance Central, Joyride, and Your Shape Fitness Evolved. The following are my impressions of each:

Dance Central: I’m already going to call it: this is the first must have title for Kinect. Unless you’re the hyper self-conscious type, you just can’t help but have fun playing this game. Now granted, I’ve long been a fan of DDR and more recently have had fun with Just Dance on the Wii, so my enthusiasm for Dance Central may in part be due to my predilection for dancing and rhythm games. Even so, you have to admire DC as being the obvious “next step” for the genre. You are really dancing, and it can be really hard depending on how high you want to set the difficulty. For a chronic white boy like me, I left it set to Easy (at least until I get my feet a little wetand have access to something besides the “Poker Face” track that was included in the demo). But if you are given to having friends over for game night, you can expect Dance Central to get a LOT of play time, especially in the near term as the “wow” factor of Kinect (and motion controls in general) still has an impact on those trying it for the first time. Get ready to blush, though--there’s nothing more humbling than watching a sped-up version of yourself attempting to freestyle. My suggestion is that you at least dress nice. It’s better to look a fool wearing a nice club shirt and slacks than a wife-beater and boxer shorts. (PLEASE dear Lord in heaven don’t let Microsoft have surreptitiously recorded last night’s performance.)

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Joyride: Well, there’s not much to say, really. For those that don’t know, Joyride was originally announced (http://www.teamteabag.com/2009/06/04/e3-ms-press-conference-free-xbla-game-joy-ride-on-the-way/) at E3’09 as an avatar-enabled kart racer that was going to be released for free through XBLA and be supported by microtransactions. That sounded like a great idea and was something that I was really looking forward to. Then, as it missed its initial Winter’09 release date, it faded from my mind until I saw earlier this year that it was re-announced as a $50 Kinect launch title. And now that I’ve played the demo, I have to say that it... plays like a low-end XBLA game with kludgy motion controls forced onto it. Seriously--the game is garbage, and I’m not even going to waste that much time telling you why. It controls terribly, looks bland, and has a tiring mechanic of having to hold your arms out in front of you for 2-4 minutes at a time. If it at least had the option of playing using the standard controller, I might give it a second look. But as it is, I’ll probably never touch it again, barring a major update and some heavily positive word of mouth.

Your Shape Fitness Evolved: This title more than any other from the E3’10 presentation was the one that really kept my cynicism at bay regarding what could be done with the watered-down (http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-downgrades-xbox-360-kinect-hardware-to-lower-costs-33064/) Kinect technology. My wife is a big fan of fitness games (I bought her Just Dance and EA Sports Active on the Wii for her birthday), so Your Shape seemed like one that I could possibly use to sell her on the idea of getting a Kinect if I decided to pick one up. Having now played the demo, I have to admit that as a tech demo it’s very cool. The part where it scans your body, analyzing your height, identifying muscle groups, and showing various measurements is a cool (if not akwardly eye-opening) effect. The only activity included in the demo is the Smash workout where you punch at various boxes which light up in front of you. It was good fun, very responsive, and bodes well for the rest of the game.

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So that’s my two-hours-in impression of Kinect. Yes, some of the games (such as Joyride and Kinect Adventures) are obviously going to be gimmicky, motion-control shovelware. But the technology holds some real potential. The Kinect Hub is a cool way to navigate your 360, and surprisingly practical. The voice controls have likewise worked great, and there’s at least a few solid games either available or on the horizon (http://child-of-eden.us.ubi.com/). Maybe it’s just my rationalization kicking in to counteract the buyers’ remorse, but I’m actually pretty happy with the purchase so far. It’s by no means a perfect device and those who rarely or never have need of a good party game platform can certainly skip it until more compelling single-player content arrives. But for those who either never picked up a Wii and need some entertainment to pad out your next party or who want an easy, accessible gaming experience that non-gamers can slip right into, then Kinect may be worth your cash sooner rather than later. Now to go find a copy of Kinectimals so I can play with my own fuzzy tig--I mean..analyze my little girl’s reactions as she adopts and cares for a virtual predatory cat..

<table width="100%" style="padding:2px"><tr><td width=33% valign=top>http://evavhost.com/public/the_good.jpg The gesture controls in the Kinect Hub actually work really well and will give you a few “Ooh! This is just like in Minority Report!” moments The facial recognition for hot swapping players is perfect for the kinds of party game that are apparently going to be the norm for the first wave of Kinect titles The voice recognition controls also work surprisingly well, even when doing a bad Patrick Stewart impression while pretending you’re talking to the computer on the holodeck. The way the Kinect automatically looks up and down tracking your face is both cool and scary-in-a-HAL-9000-way all at once</td><td width=33% valign=top>http://evavhost.com/public/the_bad.jpg While the initial device setup and calibration is simple, setting up a Kinect ID takes FOR-EVER Despite the fact that the IR camera can track your body position even in pitch dark, the facial recognition needs at least a moderately well-lit room to work; so those who use projectors (like me) may run into a little frustration on this front Had Your Shape crash on me once when I stepped away to get a quick drink. (It apparently has abandonment issues.)</td><td width=33% valign=top>http://evavhost.com/public/the_ugly.jpg An overweight 34-year-old white boy dancing alone in his home theater to Lada Gaga’s Poker Face at 2 in the morning</td></tr></table>

<table width="50%" style="border:1px solid red;padding:2px"><tr><td width=50% valign=top>The Rundown

Time Spent Playing: ~2 hours
Favorite Feature: Kinect Hub
Least-liked Feature Needing a LOT of open room to play
Favorite Demo: Dance Central
Worst Demo: Joyride
Most Embarassing Moment: Video playback in Dance Central is not always a good thing<br></td></tr></table>

Anenome
11-04-2010, 01:07 PM
How does that one go, a fool and his money...? :P

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:13 PM
How does that one go, a fool and his money...? :P

You know, you've been hating on the Kinect and whooping up the Wii's 1:1 for months now. But if you tried Kinect, I think you'd understand pretty quick the potential it has. When my wife and I are able to walk in front of the camera intermittently and have Kinect scan us and figure out who is who and then automatically log in our profiles and avatars, you have to admit that's pretty cool. And as I mentioned above, the lag is a non-issue for both the Kinect Hub and the games that I tried. Now I don't see myself playing a 360 RTS and substituing my hand for a mouse to individually highlight and select units. But honestly, I don't see myself doing that with the Wii or Move either.

Incidentally, having my wife play the Your Shape Fitness Evolved demo in her bra was easily the highlight of my lunch break today. :)

lockwoodx
11-04-2010, 01:19 PM
Before I even clicked on this thread I thought to myself "ok, if he likes it I'll respect that." The rest of you should be so lucky!!!!

Agnostic Pope
11-04-2010, 01:21 PM
"I was actually a bit taken aback by the way the Kinect, when it first came on, seemed to raise its head, scan the area, and then lock onto my face and, as far as I could tell, make eye contact with me. Creepy."

It's watching you...um what is the rating? ?/5

"An overweight 34-year-old white boy dancing alone in his home theater to Lada Gaga’s Poker Face at 2 in the morning"
Aw, dude...

pwnophobia
11-04-2010, 01:25 PM
It's watching you...um what is the rating? ?/5


It's an impression not a review.

BeardedSonOfNel
11-04-2010, 01:26 PM
Incidentally, having my wife play the Your Shape Fitness Evolved demo in her bra was easily the highlight of my lunch break today. :)

Pics or it didn't happen :D


Why do I every once in awhile get an edit button? Why can't I have it all of the time? ;)

Emabulator
11-04-2010, 01:28 PM
An overweight 34-year-old white boy dancing alone in his home theater to Lady Gaga’s Poker Face at 2 in the morning.
I wonder when the state of New Jersey will begin issuing hunting licenses for this breed? :eek:

Agnostic Pope
11-04-2010, 01:30 PM
It's an impression not a review.
Right...done in a review style. So you guys can't review it until they release more games or...he needs more hours to put in?

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:31 PM
It's watching you...um what is the rating? ?/5

Yeah, like pwn said, this isn't an official review--just something quick to post while it's topical and my early impressions are fresh on my mind. modeps has one on order from Amazon that should be in within a day or so, and we both plan on posting our 1-week-later impressions next week.

modeps
11-04-2010, 01:31 PM
It's an impression not a review.

Even if we review it proper, a score is... Almost unnecessary. Like the Xbox itself, it will be defined by its software.

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:32 PM
Pics or it didn't happen :D

You wish. :)

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:34 PM
Right...done in a review style. So you guys can't review it until they release more games or...he needs more hours to put in?

A little bit of both. Like I noted, I've only put 2 hours on the thing since I bought it, so it's a bit early for me to be assigning it an x/5. I'm doing the Kinect Adventures (and probably Kinectimals, if I can pick up a copy) reviews, though. Hopefully I'll have those done in the near future and will have more to share on the actual titles, and not just the hardware itself.

Aleksey_US
11-04-2010, 01:39 PM
So basically kid and party games... we'll see what comes next. I'd really like to see MS come out with at least games like Echochrome II and Sorcery or at least put it into Alan Wake similar to what Sony did with Heavy Rain, for the time being it still seems like a waste of money to me...

Agnostic Pope
11-04-2010, 01:40 PM
Aw got ya modeps and gzsfrk. ;)

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 01:44 PM
So basically kid and party games... we'll see what comes next. I'd really like to see MS come out with at least games like Echochrome II and Sorcery or at least put it into Alan Wake similar to what Sony did with Heavy Rain, for the time being it still seems like a waste of money to me...

Let me clarify something I should have stated point blank more than once in the OP:

The single-player content that I've played, in and of itself, does NOT justify a Kinect purchase. Your Shape seems AWESOME if you're looking for a good workout game, though. And I certainly am excited to see what happens with Child of Eden. But today? If you're a solitary core gamer, leave Kinect alone. If you like playing with friends, kids, family, etc. though, it MIGHT have enough to offer you to justify the cost (if you've got the spare cash).

pwnophobia
11-04-2010, 01:55 PM
A crude video I grabbed from the Social Gamer on twitter:

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Aleksey_US
11-04-2010, 01:56 PM
2 gzsfrk:

Since you have a basement entertainment setup i don't believe you've experienced any issues in regards to amount of room necessary for Kinect to work properly, what are your thoughts?

gzsfrk
11-04-2010, 02:01 PM
2 gzsfrk:

Since you have a basement entertainment setup i don't believe you've experienced any issues in regards to amount of room necessary for Kinect to work properly, what are your thoughts?

Well, our home theater is actually a convereted 24'x20' two car garage, not a basement. But you are correct about us not having any issues with regard to space. BUT! I did see that for it to work properly with two players, Kinect Adventures says you need at least a 10'x10' open space. So that's definitely a consideration for those in a limited space. I'd say if you can't reasonably accomodate at least a nice 8'x8' clearing, you shouldn't even be considering Kinect at this point, unless it's just for the gesture controls and voice commands (which are cool, but not worth $150).

Agnostic Pope
11-04-2010, 02:04 PM
...xbox RRoD! Please gzsfrk try this one see if anything happens :P

vallancian
11-04-2010, 02:32 PM
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nuff said.

brandonjclark
11-04-2010, 02:34 PM
You wish. :)


I LITERALLY was going to post the EXACT same text as BeardedSonOfNel:) (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/member.php?u=30745)



Back on topic...


I've always backed up the supposed menu-interactivity between the Kinext and Windows Media Center (of which gets more action than my Xbox) so have you tried hooking it up to a Win7 PC?

How does that work? Is there a software client app that gets installed? Is that coming later?

Agnostic Pope
11-04-2010, 02:41 PM
...OMFG yes...I forgot about that! How does the WMC work with Kinect?

brandonjclark
11-04-2010, 02:57 PM
Matt, hook it up to your PC and post a video..... give us a nerdon!

Nailgunner
11-04-2010, 03:00 PM
...give us a nerdon!

Niiiiice...

Meusli
11-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Matt, hook it up to your PC and post a video..... give us a nerdon!

Yeah, a big fat nerdon please!

Blackfrost
11-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Once the download is complete, the system restarts and you go straight into the Kinect setup, calibration, and tutorial. I was actually a bit taken aback by the way the Kinect, when it first came on, seemed to raise its head, scan the area, and then lock onto my face and, as far as I could tell, make eye contact with me. Creepy.

Excellent - the download tested your internet connection, and now your room (and whatever items: interesting or even potentially illegal) you had sitting around, are now known to Microsoft.

brandonjclark
11-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Excellent - the download tested your internet connection, and now your room (and whatever items: interesting or even potentially illegal) you had sitting around, are now known to Microsoft.

stoner...........

atariv8
11-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Whoops, it's a 11:30 on a school night and my wife just busted me and the kids upstairs dancing to Poker Face...I supposed to be putting them to bed a few hours ago! Kinect is a lot more fun than I thought. Between the Wii and Move, both which I also own, having no controllers to worry about is an awesome feature when kids are involved. Face, gesture and voice recognition all work as advertised for all three of us; it's pretty cool. Better get the boys to bed.

atariv8
11-04-2010, 08:34 PM
Forgot to mention, I traded in a bunch of games I had lying around and managed to walk out with Dance Central, Kinect Sports and the Kinect for $133. The new Medal of Honor was useful after all!

lockwoodx
11-04-2010, 09:10 PM
http://www.giantbomb.com/the-living-statues-of-kinect-adventures/17-3459/

LoTECH
11-04-2010, 09:56 PM
Yup. Kinect is awesome.
Dance central is wicked!!

Anenome
11-05-2010, 01:52 AM
Why do I every once in awhile get an edit button? Why can't I have it all of the time? ;)
There's no editing any article in the news section--that means stuff that showed up on the front page. Everything else can be edited at any time.

Anenome
11-05-2010, 01:57 AM
But if you tried Kinect, I think you'd understand pretty quick the potential it has. When my wife and I are able to walk in front of the camera intermittently and have Kinect scan us and figure out who is who and then automatically log in our profiles and avatars, you have to admit that's pretty cool.
Sure, but that's really not much, let's be honest. That thrill we be over by day two.

And as I mentioned above, the lag is a non-issue for both the Kinect Hub and the games that I tried.
I assume they all did their best to work around the lag. The lag on the rafting game is the worst I've seen in the vids so far.

Now I don't see myself playing a 360 RTS and substituing my hand for a mouse to individually highlight and select units. But honestly, I don't see myself doing that with the Wii or Move either.
I think Wii Pikmin has something like that, no?


Incidentally, having my wife play the Your Shape Fitness Evolved demo in her bra was easily the highlight of my lunch break today. :)
So far the most positive things said about Kinect have been that it's a great way to trick your S.O. into playing games, and that kids will like it. Is that enough for it to succeed? Hell no.

Imagine the Xbox 3 with a Kinect sensor and no controller. If they were dumb enough to do that I'd be shocked.

Vorge
11-05-2010, 04:12 AM
That's the most antedeluvian attitude I've heard about the Kinect to date. I've no love for the xbox, but I can see the massive potential this thing has. When this tech develops it'll be huge, so I'd be more inclined to try it out at a friends house before wading in in such a negative fashion.

Remember that Kinect is in it's infancy right now, and who knows where it will go once games developers get their heads into it. Who'd have imagined TF2 was possible when thye were playing Manic Miner all those years ago.

Anenome
11-05-2010, 04:19 AM
I can see the massive potential this thing has. When this tech develops it'll be huge
Define.

Remember that Kinect is in it's infancy right now, and who knows where it will go once games developers get their heads into it.
MS Kin is also in its infancy right now. It's also been strangled in its cradle. By Microsoft.

Kinect is a dead end as a UI for gaming. It's MS painting themselves into a corner. If that situation is to change they're gonna have to do something beyond radical. Liiike releasing a Wiimote clone :P

It's pretty clear to me that the ideal is a Kinect-style facing camera combined with a Wiimote clone.

The closest system we have for that at this point is Sony Move. And Nintendo still has something up their sleeve for their next system that none of us know anything about.

Anyone who reads the word "mudra" should know my original positive assessment of the peripheral. I suppose things took a downward turn when it became completely obvious that Kinect couldn't even come close to tracking fingers, much less their current shape and orientation. Without that, the peripheral is screwed.

Wolfgang
11-05-2010, 05:05 AM
I spent 3 hours with my kinect last night. I played Kinect Sports, Dance Central and Kinect Adventures. I enjoyed all 3 games. Dance Central was hands down the most impressive.

Kinect Sports has some nice touches -- like before the event starts raise both hands and the crowd stands up and cheers. I like the pictures it takes while you are doing an event -- makes you look foolish.

Kinect Adventures -- very basic, but was fun doing the raft game with the wife. She enjoys co-op games and it was cool moving around and jumping.

My wife can actually dance (she danced in college, etc...) so it was also nice to see that Dance Central rewarded her for having actual skill vs me who couldn't even max out on easy. She was getting like 90% flawless and opened up "hard" on multiple songs last night while I continue to struggle on easy.

At the same time, I can actually box and in Kinect Sports Boxing, being able to throw real punches vs my wife's punches made it easy for me to defeat her.

brandonjclark
11-05-2010, 12:19 PM
You know, this is really a question for all of you out there on this board that have actually purchased the unit.

Do you think this feels cool in a new, "Wii" sort of way and will wear off?

gzsfrk
11-05-2010, 01:47 PM
You know, this is really a question for all of you out there on this board that have actually purchased the unit.

Do you think this feels cool in a new, "Wii" sort of way and will wear off?

That will depend entirely on the flow of software (or lack thereof) for the device.

lockwoodx
11-05-2010, 01:54 PM
You know, this is really a question for all of you out there on this board that have actually purchased the unit.

Do you think this feels cool in a new, "Wii" sort of way and will wear off?

The Wii continued to sell despite anything wearing off. That's my prediction for Kinect as microsoft is following in Nintendo's footsteps by releasing must have hardware with meh software.

modeps
11-05-2010, 05:37 PM
My first impressions: Kinect Adventures is trash.

atariv8
11-05-2010, 07:08 PM
You know, this is really a question for all of you out there on this board that have actually purchased the unit.

Do you think this feels cool in a new, "Wii" sort of way and will wear off?

I never knew how much I would love not having to deal with controllers when playing "party" games. I have charging stations for my 4 move controllers and 2 wii controllers and it's a pain keeping track of them and swapping them off while we play. Kinect is not ever going to replace the controller, even with software improvements but it sure as hell kicking the Wii and Move's ass in the "gesture" department. Voice control, automatic recognition and no controllers is pretty cool.

We're having a blast with Kinect against my biggest skepticism and we'll see if it lasts. Wii lasted about 4 or 5 months in our household and the move lasted 2 weeks. Depending on what Sony plans to do with the Move in the "hardcore gaming" department, since it is crazy accurate, the Move stuff may find itself getting traded in. And of course it's the Nintendo software that will keep the Wii hanging around.

There were 2 sets of grandparents in front of me buying Kinects for their grandkids for Christmas the night I bought it and several people in line buying them when I stopped by Gamestop for lunch today. Two tech savvy guys I used to work with at a post shop called me today asking which Kinect bundle they should get. Whatever Microsoft is doing might be working...

atariv8
11-05-2010, 07:09 PM
My first impressions: Kinect Adventures is trash.

Yes, yes it is. Kinect Sports is a blast though.

lockwoodx
11-05-2010, 07:55 PM
My first impressions: Kinect Adventures is trash.

Living statues (http://www.giantbomb.com/the-living-statues-of-kinect-adventures/17-3459/) begs to differ.

atariv8
11-05-2010, 08:16 PM
Living statues (http://www.giantbomb.com/the-living-statues-of-kinect-adventures/17-3459/) begs to differ.

That's the feature that got me and the kids busted the other night, we were howling with laughter.

modeps
11-06-2010, 04:46 AM
Haven't tried that yet... Gotta find it in the menu I guess.

BalekFekete
11-06-2010, 07:04 AM
Unpacked the unit today despite my better judgement. I figured "well, it's hardware, so if I don't like it I can still return it". :)

The Dance Central demo confirmed my suspicion - a WHOLE lot of fun to be had there. My wife and I did the whole DDR thing years back, and had a blast with it. Even if that is the only really 'must have' title for right now, I think between the family and the potential for fun with friends it'll warrant keeping the Kinect.

Apex
11-06-2010, 08:12 AM
I've been saying for a long time I believe kinect will be a success because of its potential, Dance Central & Your Shape will seal the deal. I've not encountered anyone whose played them who didnt love them. Dance Central is the Kinect system seller.

But thats the point, they've got two products that are naturally suited to Kinect and so it shines. Of course the others are going to be me-toos of Wii titles. Devs need time to figure out how to use the tech.


So far the most positive things said about Kinect have been that it's a great way to trick your S.O. into playing games, and that kids will like it. Is that enough for it to succeed? Hell no.


Your kidding right? Usually your posts make good points, such that im having a hard time believing you just wrote that.

So your saying, assuming a household of 4, that making the 3 other people in the house Kinect gamers won't make it a success? Tell that to Nintendo.

You're beginning to sound like Teecakes.

Anenome
11-06-2010, 11:54 AM
Your kidding right? Usually your posts make good points, such that im having a hard time believing you just wrote that.

So your saying, assuming a household of 4, that making the 3 other people in the house Kinect gamers won't make it a success? Tell that to Nintendo.

You're beginning to sound like Teecakes.
Actually I respect your opinion enough to back off and wait until I get a shot at the unit for further judgment. I'm certainly not trying to be Teecakes-level irrational.

gzsfrk
11-06-2010, 01:13 PM
I'm certainly not trying to be Teecakes-level irrational.

That realization is about 3 months too late now. :p

Meusli
11-06-2010, 01:38 PM
I thought Teecakes was Anenome's Schizophrenic alter ego postings. ;)

Agnostic Pope
11-06-2010, 01:58 PM
I thought Teecakes was Anenome's Schizophrenic alter ego postings. ;)
Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde IRL?

lockwoodx
11-07-2010, 01:52 AM
That realization is about 3 months too late now. :p

http://www.lolz.se/fun/OhSnap2.gif