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TheKeck
05-12-2006, 01:26 PM
Not sure if this already posted somewhere on the site, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Extra Life (http://myextralife.com) linked me to this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Qw1ClCVN8&search=super%20mario%20galaxy) of Super Mario Galaxy. I think it looks absolutely incredible and makes me more excited than ever to get a Wii. (Granted, Mario64 is one of my favorite games of all time, and this is very similar.)

Editor's Note - Moved to News because it's totally awesome.

Harlan Hoyt
05-12-2006, 02:03 PM
Thanks for posting the video, I hadn't seen that. That looks incredible. Q4 can't come fast enough.

Busted_Astromech
05-12-2006, 02:08 PM
So that's what Nintendo will do with its increased hardware power? Make you climb up the backs of gigantic robots?

I like it. Very much indeed.

RandomViolence
05-12-2006, 02:11 PM
Lovely stuff. Kudos to Nintendo and Shigeru for this one, looks great!

danhoo
05-12-2006, 02:16 PM
Finally, the true successor to Mario 64 has arrived.

Abash Alarmist
05-12-2006, 02:56 PM
To be honest, I have not played a Mario game since SMB3...I have a DS so I was curious if it is worth it to go get a copy of Mario 64 DS and Sunshine?

Busted_Astromech
05-12-2006, 03:04 PM
To be honest, I have not played a Mario game since SMB3...I have a DS so I was curious if it is worth it to go get a copy of Mario 64 DS and Sunshine?

...yes, immediately, what are you waiting for?

I don't know how much fun it would be to play Mario 64 for the first time on a DS...I got my value on it from nostalgia and novelty (of 3d on a handheld). But even if you can only play Sunshine it's close enough that you'll get the idea of whether you want to also track down Mario 64 or play it on the DS. But Mario was the first truly great, truly 3D game that most of us played. You owe it to yourself to find out what the fuss is. (I'm assuming, of course, that you don't have any problems with platform games, such as breaking out in hives, because that's the only good reason I can think of to not play these games).

But not having played Yoshi's Island? Use that GBA slot, man! It's there for good! Now get ye to a game store ASAP!

Dabombpizza
05-12-2006, 03:14 PM
Wow. This looks amazing. Looks like they are reinventing the platformer again. Just watching it, I'm kinda confused as to how I'm going to play it, and that excites me.

Blackhawk
05-12-2006, 03:27 PM
Wow, indeed. And I thought I was through buying consoles. Looks like I might have to get my hands on a Wii.

Abash Alarmist
05-12-2006, 03:39 PM
Now to make it even better for me...

I haven't played a Zelda game since the first one when I was 6...should I play the other ones in anticipation to TP?

fitbabits
05-12-2006, 03:40 PM
*shivers in anticipation of playing it*

Kelegacy
05-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Wow. I didn't enjoy Sunshine due to it's frustration factor (and it didn't feel fun at times), but this looks slap-happy delicious. Whatever that means.

I'm looking forward to the Wii more than any system in recent memory. I inpulsively bought a 360 because of my excitement for Oblivion, but this blows it away hands down. And it's cheap, has the virtual console, and the new style of game-input.

I think we have ourselves a winner!!

Harlan Hoyt
05-12-2006, 04:00 PM
I haven't played a Zelda game since the first one when I was 6...should I play the other ones in anticipation to TP?
Ocarina of Time isn't considered among the best games ever made for nothing. It's truly an astounding play experience. It's well worth checking out. I haven't played Majora's Mask, but I hear that that is an overlooked gem, as well. And personally, I freakin' loved Wind Waker. I found the sailing stuff liberating. I would recommend you check that out as well.

Oh, and A Link to the Past. Oh, and Minish Cap. Oh, and any number of GameBoy and GameBoy Color Zelda games. This may sound fanboyish, but they all have their merits. But do try and get your hands on at least OoT and A Link to the Past.

Drinking_Buddy
05-12-2006, 04:02 PM
This is the first game to make me want to buy a Next-Gen console.

Mozgus
05-12-2006, 04:06 PM
Holy crap. Shadow of the Mario, amirite?

Draft
05-12-2006, 04:09 PM
Looks awesome. Sure it'll play awesome too.

Just one question:

Where's the innovation?

I mean, I see some innovation. The anti-grav stuff. Using the bosses weapons against himself. Standard evolution of game design. Good stuff, lifeblood of the industry and all that.

But you'd think, this being Nintendo's flagship series, they'd be going out of their way to come up with new and interesting ways to control Mario with the Wiimote. Instead, you're still pushing him around with the analog stick, and jumping by pressing a button. Apparently Wiimote control consists of sometimes clicking on items to interact with them, and "shaking" the thing to make Mario spin. Aside from looking slightly better than Sunshine, this could be a gamecube game and I wouldn't have batted an eye.

I hope this does not come off as trolling, becaues I really, really like Mario, and I'm sure this will be an A+ game. But Nintendo talked a BIG game about the lack of innovation in this industry, and I think it's very interesting that the next Mario is so much like the last Mario.

Draft
05-12-2006, 04:11 PM
Wow. This looks amazing. Looks like they are reinventing the platformer again. Just watching it, I'm kinda confused as to how I'm going to play it, and that excites me.Are you serious? Did you ever play Mario 64? What exactly confused you in that video?

Busted_Astromech
05-12-2006, 04:26 PM
Now to make it even better for me...

I haven't played a Zelda game since the first one when I was 6...should I play the other ones in anticipation to TP?

*twitches*

Um...yeah, what Harlan said. I may be a recovering Nintendo fanboy, but I can say with some objectivity that the Zelda games (specifically Ocarina of Time) are generally counted as the best ever.

You talked about getting Sunshine, so I assume you'd have access to a GameCube. If so, look into finding "The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition," a promo disc Nintendo made that has the NES and N64 Zelda games. And looking at Ebay, (http://search.ebay.com/zelda-collectors-edition_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ30 0QQsatitleZzeldaQ20collectorQ27sQ20edition) it seems to be a reasonable price still.

Draft: Well, Nintendo is in something of a bind here. They have to keep it pretty close to Mario formula to keep it from being a spinoff. So new things they try have to be within this limited window of innovation before it gets too weird. I think the place for the new genres will be in new franchises.

Also, this could be the Super Mario 128 that has been talked about for years now, so it may have originally been envisioned for a GameCube controller. Nevertheless, from all reports the Wiimote makes the game more fun, if not totally changes, so I still think it's worth putting on the Wii.

Mason
05-12-2006, 04:28 PM
Holy crap. Shadow of the Mario, amirite?
There's that. R&C also got a lot of mileage out of tiny planets and reorienting gravity along weird surfaces.

That whole gameplay segment was pretty bland, are there any better videos?

Spigot
05-12-2006, 04:29 PM
Shadow of the Mario... Nuff said.

Edit: Crap. Someone beat me to it. I thought I was being all witty... Sigh.

Busted_Astromech
05-12-2006, 04:33 PM
My first thought when I saw the footage was Sonic X-treme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Xtreme), with the fisheye lens. Not sure why, though.

Returner
05-12-2006, 04:36 PM
It's very easy to play and it's fun, yes they de reinvent 3d platforming.

Dabombpizza
05-12-2006, 04:36 PM
Are you serious? Did you ever play Mario 64? What exactly confused you in that video?

Should be combined with your other quote:

Looks awesome. Sure it'll play awesome too.

Just one question:

Where's the innovation?

If you read about the game, the inovation comes into play with how the Wiimote interacts with the world. You're able to move certain objects or some such shit, it's fairly vague, using the Wiimote. The analog stick is all about controlling Mario. Also, I've never really played a game where up become down and then down becomes up. It looks very intresting and novel.

Returner
05-12-2006, 04:36 PM
oops de = did

RMan
05-12-2006, 04:45 PM
But you'd think, this being Nintendo's flagship series, they'd be going out of their way to come up with new and interesting ways to control Mario with the Wiimote.
And you can tell that they haven't by a video of a fraction of the game?

NoName
05-12-2006, 04:48 PM
Wow that's beautiful. If I have that much trouble getting missles to follow me in the game though I'm going to be annoyed.

Draft
05-12-2006, 04:50 PM
And you can tell that they haven't by a video of a fraction of the game?Actually I can tell that by the numerous impressions and write ups available all over the net. It's just like dabomb said- the game is more or less traditional mario, only there are things you need to click on to interact with.

WicketW.Warrick
05-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Man that game looks awesome, it may be the crappy quality of the video but that game didn't show any signs of being a video game. It looked like rendered CG movie, the lighting is really great there.

And I fow one don't mind them having the classic control scheme, I mean it's cool playing the Wiimote but sometimes the old school is the best school.

RMan
05-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Actually I can tell that by the numerous impressions and write ups available all over the net. It's just like dabomb said- the game is more or less traditional mario, only there are things you need to click on to interact with.
Actually, the stuff I've read imply a decent use of the controller, but are you suggesting that they should have revamped everything (like Mario's movement), even that which works fine as it is, to maximize the use of the motion sensitivity? I don't think they should change things for the sake of it, and without playing it I'm not sure how you can assume they're not using it creatively for specialized movement, like balancing tightropes or something like that. They've done well in the past with the Mario games, I have no reason to doubt that they'll do creative and fun things like they did with Mario 64.

Mason
05-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Also, I've never really played a game where up become down and then down becomes up. It looks very intresting and novel.
As I mentioned, the reorientation along complex surfaces (running up the robot) and the tiny planets are both found in R&C games. I'm sure the ideas didn't originate with Insomniac, but those certainly aren't things to cite as "novel".

UnderHero5
05-12-2006, 06:32 PM
It looks both fun and great graphically. I will definitely be picking it up.
I can't resist a Mario game.

Speaking of which, New Super Mario Bros in 3 days!!

Chameleo
05-12-2006, 06:48 PM
heres another video - from 4cr

Mario Galaxy (http://4cr.earthdies.com/vid/mariogalaxy1.wmv)

EternalGamer
05-12-2006, 09:35 PM
Looks awesome. Sure it'll play awesome too.

Just one question:

Where's the innovation?

I mean, I see some innovation. The anti-grav stuff. Using the bosses weapons against himself. Standard evolution of game design. Good stuff, lifeblood of the industry and all that.



Much like we don't expect the graphical evolution of a game console to hit all at once, I don't expect the control evolution to be instantaneous. But I do think the parallel is relevant. Instead of spending the next four years refining how much they can get out of the console graphically, I think there will be a lot more emphasis on what they can accomplish with the controller, and hopefully the players evolve along with them so they they gradually can use the controller in more skillful and more complex ways.

I know this dream ultimately conflicts with Nintendo's desire to reach a more "intuitive" mainstream audience, but it seems they have already settled ona "two tier" approach, and I say let them push onward on this tier with gamers. Let's see where this new evolution in controls can gradually take us. I see it as exciting stuff. We will be developing new algorithms of control and even if it ends there, and is nothing more than novelty for novelty's sake, at least it's something new however ephemeral or long lasting it may be.

SuperMonkeyFighter2
05-12-2006, 10:37 PM
The game was cool from what I played of it at the show (exhibitor badges = early floor admission and a shorter line to get into the Wii area =). Being on the floor at 8:30 AM also helped (Nintendo opened their booth at 9AM)

To be honest, it wasn't about the control evolution to me ... the controller worked well, but didn't feel like it made a huge difference to me playing it with the remote or a standard analog (some items felt tacked on to be honest ... for example, to travel from planet to planet, you had to jump into a floating red star. Once "in" the star, you had to wave the remote around frantically until launched. Not sure how that's "innovative" per se, but it was kind of fun). The big deal to me was the sheer amount of polish the game had. It responded very well, looked very slick, and at the end of the day, put a smile on my face.

TRiLoGY
05-13-2006, 01:45 AM
hehe cool.. looks like Ratchet and Clank..

Wedge
05-13-2006, 03:27 AM
Thanks for the videos guys. I didn't quite know what to think of Galaxy before I saw these, and now I think we are in for a treat. Looks like great fun!

Borys
05-13-2006, 04:31 AM
Superawesome.

I've beaten Sunshine 3 times, I even liked it (Nokii Bay + the port map absolutely rule!) but it was easily the worst Mario platformer ever.

Seems Nintendo redeemed themselves with Galaxy 100 times.

bapenguin
05-13-2006, 04:50 AM
I'll admin I'm not a 3D mario fan...but that looks pretty cool.

Sir_Smokes_Alot
05-13-2006, 09:12 AM
I was watching the Nintendo booth tour on game trailers. Near the end were they are showing Galaxy he said different sized planets have diffrent gravity. Small size one have low gravity bigger one have higher gravity.

Kefkataran
05-14-2006, 01:07 AM
Holy crap, that looked good. I'm with bap, not a big fan of the 3D Marios, but that looked awesome.