Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Demo

[RainOfTerror]

In GRAW you command the Ghosts and Special Forces equipped with the IWS in the quest to save the president of the United States, recover stolen nuclear codes and eliminate a vicious band of renegade soldiers hell-bent on unleashing catastrophe.

Ubisoft has released a playable demo, allowing you to try out the second mission of the game, playable in singleplayer and coop (LAN) with 3 other players.

Mirrors:
Worthplaying (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=33702)
Fileshack (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=8698)
3D Gamers (http://www.3dgamers.com/games/ghostrecon3/downloads/)

[niai]

Torrent anyone?

[cppcrusader]

I started to download it but its 531 MB so I'll have to wait until after work.

[Jukey]

While I understand that most websites need to make money, and they do so through advertising, I really get fed up with having to click through 4 pages of ads to get to the download link. In the case of worthplaying.com, I don't even get a download link, I get a list of mirrors. Nothing personal against you RainOfTerror, but I won't bother with your site anymore. It just isn't worth the BS. Thanks to whoever listed the alternative links.
God, I miss filerush torrents.

[Zurik]

I'd like to see some people's thoughts after playing the demo. I was interested in this game, but I don't want a watered-down console port, both in terms of controls and graphics.

[danhoo]

Anyone know if this demo has starforce on it?

[UnderHero5]

Anyone know if this demo has starforce on it?
I can't say first hand, but word on Bluesnews is that there is no Starforce.

[devicelimit]

On my computer, I don't even get to download the demo's from worthplaying. I'll go through a whole bunch of pages and then it'll just loop me back to the mirror page when try download stuff.

[AntB]

Ubi dropped starforce.

How's the demo guys?

[uaq]

Get it from Gamershell.com (http://www.gamershell.com/news/29781.html), that's where I get all my stuff from. They've got a bunch of mirrors and they're all free. There's always a way to get stuff like this for free so don't put up with the whole registration/paying bullshit :)

[Borys]

Impressions from other forums:

- runs like crap, even worse than Oblivion, sub 10 fps
- looks worse than BF2, HDR is toned down from the 360 version
- tries to install Ageia drivers & tray program even if you don't have a PPU

People blame Ageia, not Ubi.

[earthworm48]

Thought it would run badly from that choppy vid, and the high specs. If that is down to the PPU and not crappy development then I can see that they are really fantastic. :rolleyes:

At least I can save the money I would have spent on it.

[UnderHero5]

Did any one honestly think the PC port would be good?
Am I the only one who expected a port that ran like crap?

Seriously.

[earthworm48]

Well it isn't a prt really is it? It was supposed to have been made from the ground up for PC, but I could imagine them spending less on the PC version development maybe? I can't say what may have happened during development but I don't think you can blame it on being just a crappy port.

[reimomo]

Impressions from other forums:

- runs like crap, even worse than Oblivion, sub 10 fps
- looks worse than BF2, HDR is toned down from the 360 version
- tries to install Ageia drivers & tray program even if you don't have a PPU

People blame Ageia, not Ubi.

How would you know what was Aegia, and what was Ubi? Aside from paranoia?

Oh, and the demo from fileshack crashes me to desktop before loading at all... gonna try gamershell and see if the installer from fileshack was corrupted or what.

[bapenguin]

Did any one honestly think the PC port would be good?
Am I the only one who expected a port that ran like crap?

Seriously.

PC version was built separately. It's not a port.

[Borys]

How would you know what was Aegia, and what was Ubi? Aside from paranoia?


I *think* that people think it runs too much physics on the CPU and the whole game stutters because of it. People blame Ageia because it demanded that much physic calculation to show off its new card.

Of course I'm speculating - demo seems to crash on my PC right before executing...

[Wyrm]

Guess I'll wait until I get a 360 then.

[MFAC]

lmao.... runs fucking great over here with max settings 1680/1050 16af, and it plays great, and sounds great!!!

[H.Bogard]

1 - Its not a port
2 - The framerate looked shitty the day I saw the first trailer for it.

[The-Builder]

Impressions from other forums:

- runs like crap, even worse than Oblivion, sub 10 fps
- looks worse than BF2, HDR is toned down from the 360 version
- tries to install Ageia drivers & tray program even if you don't have a PPU

People blame Ageia, not Ubi.
Apparently you need to install Ageia drivers to run it.
So if you did you would get much more then sub 10fps.....

[cppcrusader]

Apparently you need to install Ageia drivers to run it.
So if you did you would get much more then sub 10fps.....

You do have to install the Ageia drivers even if you do not have the PPU. The PhysX library does not work without installing it. I learned that the hard way a couple weeks ago when I uninstalled the drivers and discovered my code broke all of a sudden.

[Ph00p]

Apparently you need to install Ageia drivers to run it.
So if you did you would get much more then sub 10fps.....

Very gay, so we've gotten rid of gay starforce bloat now welcome in Ageia physics drivers bloat? W00t! you GO GRAW!

[smashism]

Very gay, so we've gotten rid of gay starforce bloat now welcome in Ageia physics drivers bloat? W00t! you GO GRAW!
i would much rather have a program for physics on my computer than starforce.
nice try at comparing them.

[spacerat100]

uninstall agea and it still runs fine. it runs silky smooth on my computer, max'd out at 1024x768. My only real gripe is that the bad guys see you no matter what once they're alterted to your presence. Gay. Plus their weapons are a fuckton more accurate. There is also a wierd bug where the stationary machine gun will keep firing at your last position if yuo die and reload. Apparnetly they have unlimited ammo cuz he just kept plugging away. FYI my computer is a 3.06ghz p4 w/ 533 bus 1 gig of rd ram and an AGP 4x x850.. not exactly state of the art so I dono why you guys are whining about slow speeds.

[earthworm48]

Just gave it a go and have questions.

1) Why can't I select a resolution higher than 1360x768 (or whatever it is) no 1600x1200?

2) Where is the High textures selection?

3) No AA?

4) Is HDR in this demo?

I have an Athlon 3500+, 1GB RAM and a 7800GT. With the highest settings I can pick it runs very well, but I want to pick higher too see how that affects it. The lighting seems a lot worse than the 360 version so that why I asked about HDR, and my first impressions of the game are that it is alright, but so far the 360 version looked better and also seemed to play a little better (as in was more fun, not did the tactical shooter better) but more arcadey.

Also most of the interactive stuff that was shown on the last vid that was shown on the gold announcement seems to be in here without Physx, like the cars coming apart e.t.c. so what - the Physx only adds a few extra things (debris and wreckage parts e.t.c. as well as maybe some smoke puffs) in explosions? Thats rather lame. I hope they use Physx for gameplay physics soon or just forget about it all together.

[spacerat100]

im also wondering why there is no AA..

[51|RandoM]

ooooh, time to go home from work and see how it runs on my rig.

[GigaFuzz]

I tried it briefly, and it ran awfully.

I'm running on a AthlonXP 3200+, 1GB RAM, and an AGP 6800GT, which isn't fantastic, but should be able to run GRAW faster than 10fps, I would have thought.

I tried turning off AA and AF in my driver settings, dropped the in-game graphics options as low as they would go, but it didn't make any difference. There must be a significant problem somewhere, but I didn't feel like messing around trying to find it. Uninstalled.

Besides, I've got it on the 360, so nevermind.

[earthworm48]

Well, I'll see if others think different when the games out, but even if it is more tactical now, I just had no damn fun playing the demo, so I think I'll give it a miss unless people I trust give it a thumbs up. If its "ok" then I'll wait for a budget release.

[dragon_fist]

could be driver issues

[kokyunage]

Ran fine for me. Although, it did freeze for a little bit during load. If you have a firewall installed it apparently sends something out during the load. It showed a blank screen for me until I ALT-TAB'ed out and saw Windows Firewall saying GRAW is trying to get out. Once I clicked "allow" the game ran/displayed fine.

[Paranoia]

Doesn't sound like the PC version blows away the X360. :p

[kid cabelgo]

The demo ran silky smooth for me, probably ave. 50fps or so. I don't have that great of a system too, so it might just be problems with nvidia cards or something.

2 gb ram
p4 2.8
radeon x800 256mb

[earthworm48]

No way, its more tactical and PC 'ey but not really that great a game. It really feels like it was made by a less stellar development house, using less money and with less time, I think its this "Grin"(?) that have a logo when you start the demo that made this version.

Ran fine for me too, but the min specs are pretty high still. That probably causes a lot of the trouble. I posted my specs earlier in the thread.

[Paranoia]

Does it still have that small realtime 3D video from your teammates?

[earthworm48]

Urrm.... I think so, if you are on a specific teammate (I didn't really look), and you can fullscreen the feed from their helmets (again on a specific member). Its all from a camera on their heads too, so FP.

[Averic]

Runs great with mine.

To me...this version is a lot better than the consol version. Im sorry FPS games dont belong on the console.

[earthworm48]

The console version isn't an FPS. Technically at least. I prefer controls on PC FPS, but the game has to be fun. This just isn't as fun. I loved GR1, but this is to bleh. It isn't an "FPS" FPS really to me though really, as its more of a tactical shooter. Accuracy is better than 360 version however.

[KarmaGhost]

lmao.... runs fucking great over here with max settings 1680/1050 16af, and it plays great, and sounds great!!!How'd you get it to run 1680x1050? I can't get the option to appear, even when I mess with the "aspect ratio" menu.

Runs and looks fine to me, but I'm not diggin' the controls. I've never been a big fan of "unseen animations." That's the only way I can properly describe them.

[bryan]

I tried it briefly, and it ran awfully.

I'm running on a AthlonXP 3200+, 1GB RAM, and an AGP 6800GT, which isn't fantastic, but should be able to run GRAW faster than 10fps, I would have thought.

I tried turning off AA and AF in my driver settings, dropped the in-game graphics options as low as they would go, but it didn't make any difference. There must be a significant problem somewhere, but I didn't feel like messing around trying to find it. Uninstalled.

Besides, I've got it on the 360, so nevermind.


AHHH bugger those are my exact same specs. And I'm pretty keen on this game. Crap crap crap.

[bryan]

The console version isn't an FPS. Technically at least. I prefer controls on PC FPS, but the game has to be fun. This just isn't as fun. I loved GR1, but this is to bleh. It isn't an "FPS" FPS really to me though really, as its more of a tactical shooter. Accuracy is better than 360 version however.


What did you find wrong with it?

[MasterKwan]

I have the 360 version and now the GRAW demo on the PC. I can tell you I'm buying this the second it comes out. I expected it to run smoother on my 7800 FX60 powered machine but, it wasn't bad. I've played this same mission on the 360 (or close to it) and didn't have any of the satisfaction I'm getting out of the demo. I can actually shoot accurately with this game for instance. I love shooting people through the car glass and wacking the driver in the armored car with a shot through a gap in the armour was alot of fun.

It's about the most realistic thing I've ever played other than the amount of damage you can take. It's still higher than a Raven Shield with full armor.

I'm still learning the tactical aspects of it but, I was able to set up cover fire on an courtyard while I snuck around the back and took them out from behind.

I'm itching to try the other weapons.

No it's not an FPS, it's a high quality tactical shooter. Just what I've been looking for. Just walking around made me nervous as shit. Made me feel for the boys in Iraq who do this every day for real.

[RainOfTerror]

runs smooth as silk here as well, on a p4 3.0 2 gig ram and ATi x1600

[Fyd]

The game run smooth on my athlon 64 xfx 9700gt 1gb ram, but where is the HDR ? in 360 looks so cool, i can only use medium texture settings, the gameplay its not bad but feels a bit ortopedic :( anyway i expected much more, and there is no 3rd person view, the game in 360 looks much better.

[Sl1pstream]

Runs great with mine.

To me...this version is a lot better than the consol version. Im sorry FPS games dont belong on the console.

You didn't play it, did you? That or you played a non-360 version, which I still doubt you did.

[bapenguin]

Runs pretty decent on my rig. Definitley a different game than the 360 version. I like it.

[mpsmith]

If you want to really mess with video settings, go to [GRAW directory]\data\settings and mess with the .xml file in there. There are a lot of "hidden" video settings you cant change from inside the game... Putting them all on 'high' killed my framerate.

Also, you can enter a "custom" resolution here, as well (such as 1600x1200 which wasnt an option for me).

Also, also you need a 512Mb video card in order to select "high" texture settings in-game.

[Shifter]

Maybe it's an Nvidia thing because Oblivion runs silky smooth at 1920 x 1200 on my fx55, 6800gt 2gig ram, etc, but this demo runs like a hardware test set on high.

I set everything down to 800 x 600 with medium settings for everything and it was still a slide show during action moments. Basically unplayable for me -- I don't get it.

[cppcrusader]

I don't think its an Nvidia thing, because I'm running Nvidia cards at home and ran perfect on that rig. Course that rig is the equivalent of using a 20 lb sledge to drive a nail.

I ran it here at work where I'm just running a P4 2Ghz, Radeon 9600, and 1 GB RAM and it ran fine. I couldn't ratchet everything up to max like I did at home though.

I'll definitely be picking it up.

[MasterKwan]

I'm actually leaning toward "nvidia thing" too.

[Shifter]

I don't think its an Nvidia thing, because I'm running Nvidia cards at home and ran perfect on that rig. Course that rig is the equivalent of using a 20 lb sledge to drive a nail.

I have a 20 lb sledge? cool! Still doesn't explain why this demo runs like a slide show though. If anyone has any tips i'm all ears, because I got this game for my 360 but didn't play it much -- i'm really just stuck on my PC no matter what candy i buy for my consoles. :D

[cppcrusader]

I have a 20 lb sledge? cool! Still doesn't explain why this demo runs like a slide show though. If anyone has any tips i'm all ears, because I got this game for my 360 but didn't play it much -- i'm really just stuck on my PC no matter what candy i buy for my consoles. :D

Well, I'm running an Athlon X2 3800+, dual 7600 GTs in SLI mode and 4 GB of RAM. That's why I refer to it as a 20lb sledge.

The disparity that's going on with performance for everyone is really mind boggling. The only thing I can think of is try updated drivers if you haven't.

[bryan]

For all those people that are noting bad and sluggish performance, did you install the Aegiea drivers? Earlier in the thread someone noted you need to install them, regardless of whether you have the hardware or not.

[Shifter]

Yes the Aegiea drivers are installed. Not sure if they help or hinder, since they keep looking for hardware that doesn't exist, then run in software mode. Who knows how well that works?

[cppcrusader]

It works rather well. Without the hardware the more advanced effects will be disabled. So it'll be the equivalent of any other physics library.

[Shifter]

Well I can't explain it then -- everything else runs buttery smoothlike on my rig. I also updated to the latest gforce drivers.