Revolution to Feature 20 Launch Titles

[bapenguin]

Gamesindustry.biz (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16005) has an article up with quotes from Nintendo of America senior VP George Harrison. Apparently two-thirds of the 20 Revolution launch titles will come from 3rd parties.

"You've got to deliver software, not just at launch, but you've got to deliver software in the first six to nine months after launch," he explained. "In GameCube, we didn't have that, we had kind of a drought for six months after it launched. By that time your reputation starts to solidify and it's hard to reverse that after awhile."
Lots of Revolution details are slowly beginning to trickle out. Things are getting exciting!

[Oblivion]

wasn't this article linked from EA recently? or am I beginning to mix up my news sources :S

[Abednigo]

This is great news.

[bapenguin]

wasn't this article linked from EA recently? or am I beginning to mix up my news sources :S

I don't think so, the Gamesindustry article is dated today.

[Spiffae]

If they can get 20 solid launch titles, dare I say 20 titles as interesting as Red Steel, then they will have a phenomenon on their hands. I'm there on day one.

[joruussuun]

I'm there on day one.
Oh yeah!? Well... I'm there on... day... -1!

[fitbabits]

Nice to see Nintendo 'getting it'. I can't wait for the Revolution.

[Abednigo]

wasn't this article linked from EA recently? or am I beginning to mix up my news sources :S

Yeah, there was a post in the forums over the weekend (with scans) from that Game Informer mentioned in the article. The weekend post was mainly about the pics in the magazine, but there was some mention of that interview with Harrison.

[RandomViolence]

Nice to see Nintendo 'getting it'. I can't wait for the Revolution.

Dude... Nintendo's for kids. That's just dirty!

[fitbabits]

Dude... Nintendo's for kids. That's just dirty!
Sorry! Off to the shower I go. :o

[phantomhitman]

stupid question
Do all revo games use the new controller features or will any have the old control joypad layout?

[MaiXu]

I'll believe this when I see it.

The comments in the article almost contradict one another. If Nintendo wants a steady flow of games throughout the year, then why on earth would they cram close to 10 of their own in-house titles on to shelves at launch? Considering how long it takes EAD, et al, to develop titles, you'd think they'd space them out over the year and let some third parties pick up some slack (that's assuming there's actually some decent third-party stuff out there other than Red Steel ... I can imagine a truckload of half-assed, dumbed-down EA "games" at launch choking the shelves with mediocrity).

Also, how many of these titles will be actual games, and not just tech demos thinly disguised as games? I'm especially remembering the early DS titles that basically used a game to show off a trick or two with the touch screen ...

We'll see at E3 just what Nintendo's games shall be.

/rhyming

[The Letter 3]

If they can get 20 solid launch titles, dare I say 20 titles as interesting as Red Steel, then they will have a phenomenon on their hands. I'm there on day one.
Ah, that would be nice. But no system ever has a launch lineup composed completly of "solid" games. Some, you find, are thin as air and don't make the launch date. Others are solid, but only in the sense that they are turds.

Still, Nintendo hasn't remained in the industry because they have their head up their ass, so I'm not too worried. They'll deliver.

[Serapth]

I wonder if the mean "launch window" Some abstract random amount of time centered around the date the console actually launched. I think we have Microsoft to blame for that one.

As to 20 titles... thats pretty impressive, especially for Nintendo. The 'cube and N64 both had fairly tiny launches. Im really hoping many of these 20 titles arent just rebadged Cube games. That would be rather lame.

[MosBen]

This is the same type of stuff that gets said before all console launches. "We're going to have 20 really exciting games at launch and then lots of games in the first six months!" I can't think of any console that hasn't also subsequently fallen slightly short of that rather high mark. Not that I'm saying this bodes poorly for the Rev, just that this is the same type of hype we get before every console launch.

[AntB]

Just please, Nintendo, don't rename the console, I love the name.

Nintendo 'Go' sounds so gay.


REVOLUTION FTW!

[Serapth]

This is the same type of stuff that gets said before all console launches. "We're going to have 20 really exciting games at launch and then lots of games in the first six months!" I can't think of any console that hasn't also subsequently fallen slightly short of that rather high mark. Not that I'm saying this bodes poorly for the Rev, just that this is the same type of hype we get before every console launch.

Only thing is, Im not sure Nintendo is really guilty of this in the past. Atleast for the Cube, I dont really recall them over announcing launch titles. The only contraversy I really recall was the lack of a Mario game. Then again, I skipped the Cube except the one I bought for me nephew.

BTW, in just a few hours of playing the Cube with him, I noticed the thumbstick had more or less the same effect as sandpaper. How the hell people use this controller for long periods of time was beyond me!

[Abednigo]

This is the same type of stuff that gets said before all console launches. "We're going to have 20 really exciting games at launch and then lots of games in the first six months!" I can't think of any console that hasn't also subsequently fallen slightly short of that rather high mark. Not that I'm saying this bodes poorly for the Rev, just that this is the same type of hype we get before every console launch.

That's true. Most recently MS did that with the 360 and as I recall only maybe 2 or 3 were considered "must owns" out of the games available at launch (and weren't 360 owners screaming for new games in the months after launch?) The Dreamcast was the same way if I remember correctly (Soul Calibur was huge, Sonic was okay, but the rest were kind of bleh).

If Nintendo can have 10 out of those 20 be must own games, then the industry is in for a major shake up. And let's not forget that the Zelda: Twilight Princess for GC will be out around the same time and is suppose to take advantage of the Rev controller.

[Bushido]

BTW, in just a few hours of playing the Cube with him, I noticed the thumbstick had more or less the same effect as sandpaper. How the hell people use this controller for long periods of time was beyond me!

Your THUMB (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/KnightRayze/20051102l.jpg) hurts? you need to stfu as you have now lost all gamer Cred.

[Zawath]

stupid question
Do all revo games use the new controller features or will any have the old control joypad layout?

Most likely no. Only few games use the Nintendo DS touchpad to its fullest so I think Revo will be the same and the new control method won't be used very often.

[mkelehan]

If 4 of them are must-owns, then this will be the best launch ever. And since 6-7 of them are from Nintendo, I think we've got a good shot at that. I mean, it's launching with Smash Bros. Online, so really, I'm already sold.

[Abednigo]

stupid question
Do all revo games use the new controller features or will any have the old control joypad layout?

They talked about having a shell available that you can slip the Rev controller into and use it like a regular controller. Of course with the "nunchucku" device plugged into it you'll have the analog stick and trigger buttons. They need to change the name of that though. "Nunchucku" just sounds stupid for a part of a controller.

[Heretic Machine]

Isn't there also a GC controller slot on the Rev somewhere? I could of swore that there was.

[Abednigo]

Isn't there also a GC controller slot on the Rev somewhere? I could of swore that there was.

I think you're right. There were actually a couple GC controller ports in the pictures they released last year.

[RandomViolence]

Isn't there also a GC controller slot on the Rev somewhere? I could of swore that there was.

Four, if I remember correctly.

[Blue]

They talked about having a shell available that you can slip the Rev controller into and use it like a regular controller. Of course with the "nunchucku" device plugged into it you'll have the analog stick and trigger buttons. They need to change the name of that though. "Nunchucku" just sounds stupid for a part of a controller.

I dunno...Nunchucku is something that would almost sell me if I wasn't already sold. Say the Rev would - for whatever reason - have Soul Calibur 4 on it (or some decent fighting game at the very least) and I was able to whip my friend stupid with a Nunchucku. I'd be all over that. As it's the only time in my life I'd remotely be able to do anything of the sort. At the very least I could pretend to have some ninja-like skills about me rather than only housing dexterous thumbs.

And I'll echo what some others here have said: if the launch line-up is even remotely good (read: a handful of first party titles), this might be the first console I pick up on day one.

[QueeG-Servo]

How many of these first party launch titles are going to be NES or SNES games? Did the article say? :confused:

[Abednigo]

How many of these first party launch titles are going to be NES or SNES games? Did the article say? :confused:

I seriously doubt they are including games downloadable through their virtual console as "launch games". At least I hope not. That should be just icing on the cake.

[phantomhitman]

thanks for info everyone. the new cube has hope for me now

[Worldcrafter]

How many of these first party launch titles are going to be NES or SNES games? Did the article say? :confused:

The article doesn't explicitly say the 20 titles are brand new Revolution titles, but I can't see Nintendo trying to pull a crap trick like that. Earlier in the article Nintendo's spokes person metions they've learned they need to start the first year with a strong line up. I doubt Nintendo would make that observation, and then artificially inflate their line up numbers by rereleasing old games. That would just piss off the very people they're trying to woo. Besides, if they were inflating their lineup numbers like that, then technically they can add the entire GC library as well, which, though close, was a few more than 20 games.

I do wonder if they're counting Zelda:TP as a Rev game. I guess it depends on how much Revolution specific stuff they add to it. I'm willing to call that a Revolution game if it plays differently on the Rev than on the GC.

[joruussuun]

Yes, I'm sure they aren't counting any download games as "launch games" or they probably would've counted GameCube games as well and said launching with thousands of titles (downloadable+gamecube).

[bapenguin]

I don't think it includes the downloadable stuff. If so Microsoft would have pulled that card to and said they had 30 titles available at launch including arcade.

[Serapth]

I don't think it includes the downloadable stuff. If so Microsoft would have pulled that card to and said they had 30 titles available at launch including arcade.

... they kinda do. Remember that 80 titles by June posting a few weeks back?

[Snoy Cracken]

Oh yeah!? Well... I'm there on... day... -1!
Oh yeah!!? Well I'm about to get on a plane to japan to steal a prototype using my ninja skill's!!
In all seriousness, I hope mario 128 or whatever they call it is a launch title.

[Snoy Cracken]

I do wonder if they're counting Zelda:TP as a Rev game. I guess it depends on how much Revolution specific stuff they add to it. I'm willing to call that a Revolution game if it plays differently on the Rev than on the GC.
I had a cool idea about this the other day. Wouldn't it be cool if they put in a second adventure (like in the original Zelda) that was completley designed around the revolution controller. I mean, they won't but it would be awsome.

[Kamalot]

Anyone who wonders where the GameCube games have been for the last year or so only has to look to the Revolution. It makes sense that they pulled most of their development efforts to build a strong Revolution launch and first year rather than continuing to support the Cube.

[Abednigo]

I had a cool idea about this the other day. Wouldn't it be cool if they put in a second adventure (like in the original Zelda) that was completley designed around the revolution controller. I mean, they won't but it would be awsome.

I wonder if something similar to this is possible. Maybe they put in extra content that can only be opened if you're playing it on the Revolution. Like an extra dungeon or some minigames. Kind of like how you can't play certain areas in an MMO without buying the expansion to access those areas. You can see the portals, but you can't get there. That might be cool. I'm not sure if that's even possible in a console game though.

Then again, that might annoy GC owners who hadn't planned on getting a Rev (but those would be crazy people).

[Borys]

Revolution name revealed by me!

If:

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (DS)
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence (DS) etc.

then:

Katana: Red Steel ... (RS?)

Revolution = Nintendo RS!

[QueeG-Servo]

The only reason I was thinking that, was the 12 First party titles someone mentioned. That seems kinda like flooding the market to me. They should release around 5 of them, then a new one each month. That way there's a steady flow of good first party titles for the first half year.

[Abednigo]

Revolution name revealed by me!

If:

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (DS)
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence (DS) etc.

then:

Katana: Red Steel ... (RS?)

Revolution = Nintendo RS!

DS is for Dual Screen, so what does the RS stand for?

I can hear the cries from the Sony and MS fanboys..."Yeah, RS for 'Really Stupid'! LOL! Nintendo is teh d00med!!'" :rolleyes:

[Borys]

DS is for Dual Screen, so what does the RS stand for?

I can hear the cries from the Sony and MS fanboys..."Yeah, RS for 'Really Stupid'! LOL! Nintendo is teh d00med!!'" :rolleyes:

Nintendo: Revolution System.

NRS in short.

[Scaryboy]

Or the "Nintendo Arse" as everyone else would call it...

[TheBrainKills]

.... I noticed the thumbstick had more or less the same effect as sandpaper. How the hell people use this controller for long periods of time was beyond me!

Hehe, thats like saying you don't like sex because it tickles your penis. Wuss ;)

[Serapth]

Hehe, thats like saying you don't like sex because it tickles your penis. Wuss ;)
Well... it does kinda tickle...

[MosBen]

While part of my comment was intended to reflect the fact that companies overhype the quality of the launch games, but I also intended to refer to the fact that companies overhype the *number* of launch games. I think it's very doubtful that the Rev will have 20 titles at launch. I think something like 12 is probably more likely, with the rest getting pushed back to either just before Christmas or possibly into the new year.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

Launching with a few first party Nintendo games basically guarantees a killer launch lineup. Of course we could always get another Luigi's mansion, but I'd say that Nintendo has a record of delivering that is much higher than most other developers, especially for the number of titles they put out.

In all honestly, the Revolution could launch with just Smash Bros. and I'd buy one on the first day. I bought the Cube for Eternal Darkness, and then never played it for more than a couple of hours because I spent every free moment play Smash Bros. with friends. I still play that game to this day. It's pretty much the best multiplayer game ever made, IMHO. The single player is pretty fun too.

Hopefully these 20 launch titles don't include a bunch of lame EA games - it'd be nice to see some absolutely stellar titles out at launch. Mario 128 would be really killer - I couldn't get into Sunshine, so I'd love to see Mario return to form.

I know I've said this a hundred times, but I haven't been this excited about gaming in ages. The Revolution is shaping up to be the first console I've ever bought at launch. I don't know how I will survive until this fall.

There, I've definitely cemented myself into Official Nintendo Fanboydom.

[Abednigo]

I know I've said this a hundred times, but I haven't been this excited about gaming in ages. The Revolution is shaping up to be the first console I've ever bought at launch. I don't know how I will survive until this fall.

There, I've definitely cemented myself into Official Nintendo Fanboydom.

You're not the only one. That seems to be a similar feeling among many gamers right now. Do you think that's what Nintendo was hoping for? :)

Personally, I have lost almost all interest in PC and console gaming (I still read gaming news like crazy though). But the Revolution has brought a spark of interest back to actually playing again.

[RMan]

I think something like 12 is probably more likely, with the rest getting pushed back to either just before Christmas or possibly into the new year.
Yea, I don't think they'll make 20 either, but I'm going to go with 16 (splitting the difference). If they can produce a bunch of units for launch though, and have convinced publishers of it, then they could have the necessary support. The real question is how long will it take before Sony and MS are talking about gross console revenue rather than number of units sold :).

[Abednigo]

Here's a guaranteed system seller.

Revolution exclusive: videogame based on "Snakes on a Plane"

[bapenguin]

Here's a guaranteed system seller.

Revolution exclusive: videogame based on "Snakes on a Plane"

Think of the possibilities using the controllin. Realistically making a snaking movement to get your snake up on the plane! WOW!

Also, spelling out "Snakes on a Motherfucking Plane" with the rev controller is mad bonus points.

[Banacek]

Name me 20 first-party GameCube titles.

[Kamalot]

Fire Emblem
Battallion Wars
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Chibi Robo
Super Mario Sunshine
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Smash Bros
Wave Race
Luigi's Mansion
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Paper Mario
Animal Crossing
Zelda: 4 Swords
Mario GOlf
Mario Power Tennis
Super Mario Strikers
Wario Ware
1080 Avalanche
Cubivore
Donkey Konga

I dunno if all of those are 1st party, but I avoided the ones I know are exclusive 2nd party like:
Metroid Prime
F-Zero
Star Fox Armada
Star Fox Adventures
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
etc.
Eternal Darkness

[Banacek]

Fire Emblem
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Chibi Robo
Super Mario Sunshine
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Smash Bros
Wave Race
Luigi's Mansion
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Paper Mario
Animal Crossing
Zelda: 4 Swords
Wario Ware
1080 Avalanche
Cubivore

Yes

Mario GOlf
Mario Power Tennis
Super Mario Strikers
Donkey Konga
Battallion Wars

No

[Kefkataran]

Nice. This is great news if they end up sticking to it. Fingers: crossed.

[Snoy Cracken]

Um, isn't Star Wars Rogue Squadron published by Lucas Arts? Therefore making it a third party game.
Otherwise nice list.

[LilEvilFish]

wanna wanna wanna wanna black ninty revolution >_<

it'll match my purdy Gigabyte PC case and my TV and it'll all look gorgeous and it'll help me get girls woo!!

[Watership]

Nice to see Nintendo 'getting it'. I can't wait for the Revolution.

I have to be a devil's advocate here.

How are they getting it right.? This is not fact, it's just pre-hype and announcements. The day it's out and we're playing 20 games is when we should be saying that they did things right.

Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?

[Panda Love]

droooooooool
plus check out the Red Steel FPS coverage. Saw it on slashdot somewhere.

This just may be my first launch day purchase.

[Panda Love]

wanna wanna wanna wanna black ninty revolution >_<

it'll match my purdy Gigabyte PC case and my TV and it'll all look gorgeous and it'll help me get girls woo!!
spraypaint ftw

[Banacek]

Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?

Yes, they do, which was my point.

[outfromoutwhere]

I have to be a devil's advocate here.

How are they getting it right.? This is not fact, it's just pre-hype and announcements. The day it's out and we're playing 20 games is when we should be saying that they did things right.

Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?But, like many of the previous posters, I myself am actually completely sold on the Revolution already. From what I have heard and seen as solid fact, I am already convinced. Say all you want about it being hype, how many people were this excited about the GameCube launch? Was Nintendo promising 20 launch titles then?

[Eran Hawke]

They are getting it right by focusing on the games. They aren't trying to sell you a system so thy can get you to buy your movies all over again. They aren't trying to sell you a multimedia music system that happens to play games.

They are focusing on fun games at an affordable price. Games for gamers? What a novel concept!

[benig]

I might be the only person on the planet who wants this, but I would love a Luigi's Mansion on the Revolution where you use the wand as a flashlight.

[RandomViolence]

I might be the only person on the planet who wants this, but I would love a Luigi's Mansion on the Revolution where you use the wand as a flashlight.

Haha, yeah, I think you are.

[Achilles]

I wonder if the mean "launch window" Some abstract random amount of time centered around the date the console actually launched. I think we have Microsoft to blame for that one.MS wasn't the first one to use a launch window, not sure who was actually. Launch window is the first 6 months. And Nintendo is probably talking about a launch window. The GC probably had 20 games out during its launch window as well.

[MaiXu]

You're not the only one. That seems to be a similar feeling among many gamers right now. Do you think that's what Nintendo was hoping for? :)

Personally, I have lost almost all interest in PC and console gaming (I still read gaming news like crazy though). But the Revolution has brought a spark of interest back to actually playing again.

Wow, me too! I can't stand all the me-too garbage going on between Sony and MS. I'm sore fucking bored by everything they are offering and promising (althougt I admit that Oblivion looks meaty). The only thing I've been gaming on, really, are classic games via emulation: some GBA titles, some NES/SNES/Genesis/etc. on my roomie's modded Xbox, etc.

All the new stuff out is so goddamn boring. But just the list of interesting things to do in Red Steel has generated more excitement for a Revolution than I've felt in a while.

[MaiXu]

I have to be a devil's advocate here.

How are they getting it right.? This is not fact, it's just pre-hype and announcements. The day it's out and we're playing 20 games is when we should be saying that they did things right.

Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?

Is that really that case? I've been underwhelmed on the GameCube, yes, but I really felt they delievered on the N64, SNES, and, well, that's as far back as you can really go. Sure, all my favorite franchises weren't there on the N64, and a lot of help came from Rare, but I still had a stack of N64 titles that dwarfed my PSX collection. But then, not a lot of PSX games appealed to me.

[MaiXu]

But, like many of the previous posters, I myself am actually completely sold on the Revolution already. From what I have heard and seen as solid fact, I am already convinced. Say all you want about it being hype, how many people were this excited about the GameCube launch? Was Nintendo promising 20 launch titles then?

OK ... so you're admitting to being sold on nothing but hype? On nothing but two Red Steel screens? Had Nintendo showed the Spaceworld video that introduced the GameCube early, and then promised 20 titles, you'd be in the same position? Sure, the controller gives me that tingly feeling, but ...

All I'm saying is, let's not get carried away. I'm excited about the Revolution, too; I said elsewhere that Red Steel alone is more exciting to me than anything I've seen on the 360. But let's not call "omgwtfbbq nintenod ftw!!11!1one!1" just yet. We really gotta see if they can deliever on the concepts and 20-odd games they've promised.

[Dag-Sabot]

MS wasn't the first one to use a launch window, not sure who was actually.
-NASA.
The same folks who brought you: Faked moon landing 1 through 6.
Now thats what i call a console launch.
:D

[Hemalin]

-NASA.
The same folks who brought you: Faked moon landing 1 through 6.
Now thats what i call a console launch.
:D
1-4 were pretty good, 5 just sucked and 6 was nothing but hype. I'm holding out that when they finally get around to 7 it will be really exciting with lots of explosions.

[Spiffae]

OK ... so you're admitting to being sold on nothing but hype? On nothing but two Red Steel screens? Had Nintendo showed the Spaceworld video that introduced the GameCube early, and then promised 20 titles, you'd be in the same position? Sure, the controller gives me that tingly feeling, but ...

All I'm saying is, let's not get carried away. I'm excited about the Revolution, too; I said elsewhere that Red Steel alone is more exciting to me than anything I've seen on the 360. But let's not call "omgwtfbbq nintenod ftw!!11!1one!1" just yet. We really gotta see if they can deliever on the concepts and 20-odd games they've promised.
Wise words, but that doesn't mean it hurts to get a little excited over the rev. It's a legitimately exciting concept - used well, it very well could be a refreshing take on playing games. The one game we have seen looks excellent, and we're excited for more. Everybody here knows that anticipation is the best part, and with our fears tucked away in the back of our minds, we will unite in a chorus of "omgwtfbbq nintendo ftw!!11!"

You're absolutely right though, this hasn't ensured a nintendo sweep by any means.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

The real question is how long will it take before Sony and MS are talking about gross console revenue rather than number of units sold :).

Probably never, since each company loses a ton of money on their hardware, especially Microsoft.


Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?


I really don't understand this. Sure the Cube got less titles than the PS2 and the N64 less than the PSX, but both consoles still had enough exclusives to warrent a purchase. I didn't feel the same way about the Xbox for example - now there's a console that I was totally underwhelmed by, and I spent $300 on that damn thing.

Besides, Nintendo had a HUGE amount of support with the NES and especially the SNES, so why couldn't that come back?

Yes, they do, which was my point.

Your "point" seemed to be that there were not even 20 first party titles on the Cube, and that is clearly not the case.


MS wasn't the first one to use a launch window, not sure who was actually. Launch window is the first 6 months. And Nintendo is probably talking about a launch window. The GC probably had 20 games out during its launch window as well.


George Harrison specifically stated that there would be 20 (or close to 20) titles at LAUNCH (the day of) and several more to follow in the few months afterwards. The only company I know of that uses the "launch window" terminology is MS.


Many of the people who don't "understand" the excitement that people feel for the Rev were pumped about the Xbox, despite all the hype and BS leading up to and following that console's launch. I'd say that Nintendo is the least guilty when it comes to hype, so I tend to take what they say at face value more than I'd trust anything coming from a MS or Sony rep.

[RMan]

Does anyone else feel that every generation people forget that the previous generation of games on a nintendo console are underwelming in terms of support?
I don’t think so, I think many can look at Nintendo’s successes as well as their failures, and more importantly know a good thing when they see it. I feel I know why the Gamecube and N64 failed, and why the Revolution is different, and I think this is what most of the fans are seeing, and what most of the skeptics are not.

[RMan]

Probably never, since each company loses a ton of money on their hardware, especially Microsoft.
Opps, you are correct, I shouldn't have said gross, meant revenue.

[TKO]

Sure, all my favorite franchises weren't there on the N64, and a lot of help came from Rare, but I still had a stack of N64 titles that dwarfed my PSX collection.
That would be bacause the cartridges were thicker .. hahaha! (what? not funny? well, it made me laugh.) :D

Actually some of the N64 titles were pretty hot. I still love that version of WaveRace .. and Rare's gems: GoldenEye + PerfectDark, of course. But the overall software library wasn't just thin, it was positively anorexic. There simply weren't enough titles to give the console broad appeal. A shame really, coz that console did have lots of potential.

From the news I'm hearing so far though, it sounds like Nintendo have learned from the lack of releases for the N64 and Gamecube. I'm pretty damned excited about what the Rev might offer. (fingers crossed.)

[Nintendo Revolution]

Things you have to take into consideration with a 20 title launch and proof that its indeed possible: The Nintendo Revolution isn't much more powerful than the GameCube. It's a lot easier to make a game on this hardware, because you've already have existing development kits and it's very similar to current generation. Next, if you remember, the DS had a fairly weak launch (well, I call a port of a 64 launch title weak), but that system was announced and released all within 6 months. The Nintendo Revolution was announced more than a year ago and many developers, especially higher end ones like EA and Ubisoft have been working on software for quite some time.

I'm hyped for sure, but I still want to know how I'm going to play the new Mario and Super Smash Brothers. If it's with a shell, which seemingly so it might be, will this be a large pack-in? Less than a month to find out I guess.