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fitbabits
03-17-2006, 07:07 AM
Thanks to Next Generation (http://www.next-gen.biz) for the news (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2517&Itemid=2).

Ubisoft shares are up 4 percent today after the company announced record first-week sales for Ghost Recon Advanced Warfigher

Ubisoft said the Xbox 360 game sold 240,000 games in its first week in North America with a further 120,000 units sold in three European countries in three days.

Ubi boss Yves Guillemot said, "Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter had the best ever first-week sales performance for our company and is looking like a major commercial success."
Congratulations to UbiSoft. A wonderful game that restores the Ghost Recon name to its earlier glory.

GunnyMo
03-17-2006, 07:09 AM
This game will be the death of me! I've been up to 2-3am every single night this week on multiplayer! I just can't kill enough Mexicans! :)

Knite
03-17-2006, 07:18 AM
That's even more impressive considering the relatively small penetration the 360 has in the market. Congrats UBI!

Nite_Moogle
03-17-2006, 07:19 AM
Bolded so developers catch this important point: delaying a game to make it better is good.

Always happy to see a good game sell as it should. Sounds like GRAW might really be the first must-own game for the 360.

screwtape
03-17-2006, 07:19 AM
Best ever sales? For a system that has very limited availability? Good for them. I know as soon as I can find a 360, I'll be picking this up. The thought of 16-player co-op makes me salivate.

Mortis
03-17-2006, 07:21 AM
Great news, glad to hear/read it.

JazGalaxy
03-17-2006, 07:27 AM
ugh.

Now this means we're going to see 1000 more "near future war man" games.

sTubbs
03-17-2006, 07:32 AM
ugh.

Now this means we're going to see 1000 more "near future war man" games.

How is that any different than now?

phantomhitman
03-17-2006, 07:36 AM
Name a fresh fps scenario
ww1 and ww2-check
korea and vietnam-check
modern desert war-check
future war-check
sci fi-check

Does it really matter?! As long as I can shoot someone, regardless of style of clothes or guns, I am happy.

JazGalaxy
03-17-2006, 07:40 AM
How is that any different than now?

It's not. I thought it was ending though. This is like the groundhog popping up and telling us we're goign to get 2 more years of winter.

Serapth
03-17-2006, 07:45 AM
One thing ive seen with the 360 is the attach rate for the machine is amazing. If memory serves me correct within the launch window, the xbox held the record before with 2.8 games sold per system. I think the 360 is way beyond that. The number of games people are buying already is blowing my mind. Look at the recently played list of anyone online and theres a frickin ton of games shown... granted, some of that could be rentals.

To my understanding, Call of Duty 2 had extremely solid sales aswell. This is very nice to see, especially when you figure both games are going to keep selling and selling as people finally get their hands on a system. Where as most games are introduced at a time when a system is mature, and sales boom at first then drop to almost nothing. That is one of the big advantages of being a launch or near launch title.

Magnanimous Gnome
03-17-2006, 07:47 AM
I didn't care about this game whatsoever a few months ago, but after the good press here on EA and the stellar reviews in EGM I know I'll be picking it up along with Oblivion when I get a 360.

Hell I didn't even care about the 360 a few months ago, and now I want one. Damn you Microsoft!!

Magnanimous Gnome
03-17-2006, 07:49 AM
One thing ive seen with the 360 is the attach rate for the machine is amazing. If memory serves me correct within the launch window, the xbox held the record before with 2.8 games sold per system.


I'm pretty sure that the Gamecube actually has the highest attach rate, with something like 5 or 6 games sold per system. I recall something about that being on EA a few months ago.

Serapth
03-17-2006, 07:52 AM
I'm pretty sure that the Gamecube actually has the highest attach rate, with something like 5 or 6 games sold per system. I recall something about that being on EA a few months ago.

That I find extremely hard to believe as well, were there even 6 titles available at the Gamecubes launch?

EDIT: Appears I was right but the number was slightly off.


Most importantly, Xbox purchasers can't get enough of the Xbox launch games. According to The NPD Group, gamers are buying 2.4 Xbox games with every Xbox, resulting in the highest game attach rate ever recorded for a console at launch. Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. sold 1.9 games with every PlayStation 2 during the first two weeks of its launch last year, and Nintendo Company Ltd. has sold 1.9 games with every GameCube to date.


Granted... keep the source in mind.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2001/dec01/12-04numberspr.mspx

boratika
03-17-2006, 07:53 AM
Well I've seen a whole lot of people here buying it, which is odd since they have nothing to play it on.

Wedge
03-17-2006, 07:53 AM
Bolded so developers catch this important point: delaying a game to make it better is good.

Always happy to see a good game sell as it should. Sounds like GRAW might really be the first must-own game for the 360.

Absolutely! Still, GRAW needs some patching for its online component though.
Delay beats unfinished game any day of the week!

mpsmith
03-17-2006, 07:54 AM
That's good. Now maybe we can get some news on the PC version... Anyone?

bapenguin
03-17-2006, 07:55 AM
Cool. Grats to Ubisoft!

absolut taco
03-17-2006, 07:56 AM
Name a fresh fps scenario
ww1 and ww2-check

Did I miss something? What games are set in WW1?

Cool AN
03-17-2006, 07:59 AM
Wow, that is quite impressive.

Franjo
03-17-2006, 08:05 AM
There needs to be a US vs Canada war game...but who really wants to buy a game that has about 30minutes of playtime.

Roc Ingersol
03-17-2006, 08:10 AM
Grats to UBI.

Wonder what the figure woulda been if Joe Sixpack could actually lay hands on a 360?

fitbabits
03-17-2006, 08:13 AM
Best ever sales? For a system that has very limited availability? Good for them. I know as soon as I can find a 360, I'll be picking this up. The thought of 16-player co-op makes me salivate.
Read the article - it's the highest-selling game from UbiSoft, regardless of platform).

AzN.Homeboy
03-17-2006, 08:16 AM
That's good. Now maybe we can get some news on the PC version... Anyone?
Here's a man who knows what's proper.

GunnyMo
03-17-2006, 08:21 AM
Here's a man who knows what's proper.

What is this mythical "PC" you speak of. :D

Heretic Machine
03-17-2006, 08:35 AM
Word of mouth sold this game to me. That should teach developers how making a GOOD game can be profitable.

BTW, this game is number 2 on the over-all Gamefaq's top ten right now. That's a PS2-tastic site.

Dr Quincy
03-17-2006, 08:39 AM
I heard it was a bit six out of ten.

IndependentGMR
03-17-2006, 08:58 AM
I tip my hat to Ubisoft. I played the other Ghost Recons, and didn't like them very much. However, I still decided to purchase GRAW. The single-player campaign is amazing, and the multi-player is nearly perfect. If you don't own a 360, I'd say GRAW, and the fact that Oblivion comes out next week, are two very good reasons to buy one.

screwtape
03-17-2006, 08:58 AM
Read the article - it's the highest-selling game from UbiSoft, regardless of platform).
Point taken.

According to the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360), there's been about 1,010,000 360s sold in the US through Feb 06. At almost a quarter million sold for the 360, about 1 in 4 US 360 owners has it. That's insane.

Royal Fool
03-17-2006, 09:06 AM
I'd like to see some total software sales figures for the 360 since the beginning.. would be mighty interesting to see how many people own each game.

The Letter 3
03-17-2006, 09:16 AM
Three cheers for developers that take the time to make a good game. After seeing what happened with GRAW when it got a few more months, I can't wait to see what Oblivion ends up delivering!

Dirty Harry
03-17-2006, 09:20 AM
graw is pretty decent but it no way compares to its pc counterpart.

ruprect
03-17-2006, 09:28 AM
Intersting. I wonder how Oblivion will do. As I recall Morrowind did well, but not fantastic on the XBox. . . didn't suit some people's taste. Games like GRAW definitely generate more buzz with general XBox'ers it seems.

Sigh, I've been putting off getting this because I'm anticipating Oblivion taking over my 360 life. It gets harder and harder every day to resist though with my friends talking about it. . .

MosBen
03-17-2006, 09:46 AM
Morrowind was a platinum hit, wasn't it? I thought that was tied to sales, which makes me think it did well enough. Add in that Oblivion and GRAW are the first post launch must haves and I think it's going to do very well.

92miata
03-17-2006, 09:55 AM
this is not good news for us. i have not purchased a single 360 game because of the price. 60 bucks is too much for a game. even at costco they are 53-54. i only rent them because of this. by purchasing games for this price you are telling them it is ok to charge this much for games. i will pass, thank you hollywood video. 1 game out for 20 bucks a month, return anytime.....:) not to mention that i am noticing a bunch of advertising in some of the newer releases, and the price is still 60.

bapenguin
03-17-2006, 10:03 AM
Intersting. I wonder how Oblivion will do. As I recall Morrowind did well, but not fantastic on the XBox. . . didn't suit some people's taste. Games like GRAW definitely generate more buzz with general XBox'ers it seems.

Sigh, I've been putting off getting this because I'm anticipating Oblivion taking over my 360 life. It gets harder and harder every day to resist though with my friends talking about it. . .

Honestly, as strong as it is with the hardcore crowd Oblivion isn't exactly a casual title. Sure it should lure in some peeps with the purdy graphics, but the RPG crowd isn't nearly as big as the shooter crowd.

fitbabits
03-17-2006, 10:23 AM
this is not good news for us. i have not purchased a single 360 game because of the price. 60 bucks is too much for a game. even at costco they are 53-54. i only rent them because of this. by purchasing games for this price you are telling them it is ok to charge this much for games. i will pass, thank you hollywood video. 1 game out for 20 bucks a month, return anytime.....:) not to mention that i am noticing a bunch of advertising in some of the newer releases, and the price is still 60.
Honestly, I would rather pay $60 for a game like G.R.A.W. than the $40 Electronic Arts are charging for Black (six hours on SP, no hours on MP). I'm not overly keen in the price hike, but games like G.R.A.W. let me experience things on a console I've not experienced so far.

(Before the PC brigade get their knickers in a twist, I know games are more next gen on PC than the current next gen consoles... blah blah blah).

92miata
03-17-2006, 10:37 AM
i understand your point also. you know the last games i bought? god of war and gran tursimo 4 after the drop to 20 bucks. 30 and under i don't even think about buying games, anything over i wait until it drops or rent it.....:)

fitbabits
03-17-2006, 10:40 AM
i understand your point also. you know the last games i bought? god of war and gran tursimo 4 after the drop to 20 bucks. 30 and under i don't even think about buying games, anything over i wait until it drops or rent it.....:)
I've been playing the crap out of God of War - hands down the GotY last year (along with RE4).

Chi-Town
03-17-2006, 11:17 AM
Intersting. I wonder how Oblivion will do. As I recall Morrowind did well, but not fantastic on the XBox. . . didn't suit some people's taste.

Actually, it did very well. A while back Bethesda said that the sales of Morrowind and the Morrowind:GOTY edition on Xbox were about even to what it sold on the PC(they were pleasantly surprised by it's success).

H.Bogard
03-17-2006, 01:42 PM
Name a fresh fps scenario

Shooting at Game stores and Paul Eibler!

JazGalaxy
03-17-2006, 01:46 PM
Actually, it did very well. A while back Bethesda said that the sales of Morrowind and the Morrowind:GOTY edition on Xbox were about even to what it sold on the PC(they were pleasantly surprised by it's success).

That's not right. I had read, and granted this was years ago I believe, Bethesda saying that the MAJORITY of the money they made on the Morrowind was from the Xbox version. They were asked something along the lines of "are you going to continue to support consoles in the future" and the answer was something to the tune of, "are you crazy?". That's one of the main reasons the lead platform for the newest elder scrolls is the console.

Zurik
03-17-2006, 03:30 PM
Well I'm pretty upset, I was going to go get this, but the PC version isn't out until May. I hope the delay is for optimizations.

Heretic Machine
03-17-2006, 03:38 PM
My thoughts on GRAW multiplayer: Fun, but suffers from the all-too-common "Wait before you play, play, die, wait, wait some more, play, die, wait some more" syndrom. This is exactly what KILLED PD0 multiplayer for me.

EDIT: Ya, I'm gonna go ahead and say that this game is why I miss the software return policies of the 80's and early 90's. Lemme just outline my experience in the "Elimination" mode of this game...

I log in and ask to be placed into an elimination game.
I get put into one, and it (of course) has already begun.
I wait for it to end.
It ends, and I wait for the new round to begin.
It begins.
I select my weapon.
I walk around for a minute, confused.
I die.
I wait for the round to end.
It ends, and I wait for the new round to begin.
It begins.
I select my weapon.
I walk around for a minute, confused.
I die.
I wait for the round to end.
It ends, and I wait for the new round to begin.
It begins.
I select my weapon.
I walk around for a minute, confused.
I die.
I wait for the round to end.
It ends, and I wait for the new round to begin.
It begins.
I select my weapon.
I walk around for a minute, confused.
I die.
I wait for the round to end.

I repeated this for about fourty minutes. Eventually I was so bored that I had to start playing that stupid Pinball game that comes installed on Windows while I waited for the oppurtunity to die again.

I don't know what genius thought that the fast paced shooter genre needed to be slowed down by one-life limits in EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER GAME in the past couple of years, but I'm not down with it. When I join a "Quick Match" I want to be playing in less than a minute. When I die, I want to get back up again and continue play. This right here is a waste of my time, and my money.

Sl1pstream
03-17-2006, 04:38 PM
They deserve it.

Semi offtopic. I just finished half the treasury mission on my own, as my team killed each other half way through. [/proud]

Magnanimous Gnome
03-17-2006, 04:49 PM
That I find extremely hard to believe as well, were there even 6 titles available at the Gamecubes launch?

EDIT: Appears I was right but the number was slightly off.


Well I didn't realize that you were talking about game sales at launch. "Attachment rate" usually refers to the overall attachment rate for the console, at any given point in time. I was talking about the consoles as they stand right now, and from what I understand the Cube has the highest attached rate. Thanks for doing the research though - we were just talking about two different things.

JazGalaxy
03-17-2006, 05:08 PM
Well I didn't realize that you were talking about game sales at launch. "Attachment rate" usually refers to the overall attachment rate for the console, at any given point in time. I was talking about the consoles as they stand right now, and from what I understand the Cube has the highest attached rate. Thanks for doing the research though - we were just talking about two different things.

I agree with your overall point. My brother got a 360 on launch day, and he already has, like, 6 games. Possibly more.

Heretic Machine
03-17-2006, 06:20 PM
I got one at launch as well... I have Kameo, PD0, CoD2, GRAW, and about five arcade titles. It's a highly desirable system, for whatever reason (I still think it's the interface).

bone_matrix
03-17-2006, 08:56 PM
Confusion...

Sounds like you need to be less confused. :D

I also had this problem when I first started. I died alot. So, I said "Screw you game!! I'm going to kill in single player!". I then died a lot until I figured out the controls and how the game played. I then went back into multi-player and cleaned up. At least, until someone camped an easily ambushable spot, but managed to kill all of my teamates who figured the best way to kill him was wait until he ran out of bullets by using their bodies as bullet magnets over and over. But thats another story.

If you go to custom game (I believe it is) you can pick team elimination, and pick the one besides last man standing (I can't think of what it is right now) it allows you to respawn when you die.

To be honest, it sounds like you need to look into reading the instruction manual before playing a game so you aren't disappoined. :D

92miata
03-17-2006, 09:31 PM
yes god of war is unreal. i am thinking of droping my monster cable s-video and buying the component cable for my ps2. and so is gran turismo 4. i called gamestop at the mall today to trade in gran turismo 3 and they offered me 15 cents of store credit.....:)

i certainly can't wait for the xbox 360 platinum hits priced at 39.99.....:)

thanks fitabits!

KamaItachi
03-18-2006, 01:55 AM
Good job on you, UBI, you really pulled this game up from meh-ish looking Tom Clonesy shooter to a pretty fantastic experience overall.

fitbabits
03-18-2006, 06:08 AM
Good job on you, UBI, you really pulled this game up from meh-ish looking Tom Clonesy shooter to a pretty fantastic experience overall.
Tom Clonesy FTW! :)

Heretic Machine
03-18-2006, 07:43 AM
Sounds like you need to be less confused.

I also had this problem when I first started. I died alot. So, I said "Screw you game!! I'm going to kill in single player!". I then died a lot until I figured out the controls and how the game played. I then went back into multi-player and cleaned up. At least, until someone camped an easily ambushable spot, but managed to kill all of my teamates who figured the best way to kill him was wait until he ran out of bullets by using their bodies as bullet magnets over and over. But thats another story.

If you go to custom game (I believe it is) you can pick team elimination, and pick the one besides last man standing (I can't think of what it is right now) it allows you to respawn when you die.

To be honest, it sounds like you need to look into reading the instruction manual before playing a game so you aren't disappoined.

Ya... except I played through a few levels of the single player without an issue. Knowing how to operate the UAV isn't going to help you when you die the moment you step off your base.

Heretic Machine
03-18-2006, 09:23 AM
Ok, I've gotten better at the game (nightvision works wonders in close-combat), but I still don't want to waste twenty-five minutes to play everytime I join a new game. There is no option in Custom Game for "List only games that haven't started." So, I end up wasting a minute for the Custom Game option to find a list of games, I join one, it has 25 minutes left on the timer, I leave, and then waste another minute waiting for the Custom Game option to find another list of games. Rinse and repeat till infinity.

Obviously I don't have the patience it takes to join a game, maybe you guys are experiencing something different.

Busted_Astromech
03-18-2006, 06:04 PM
The game browser shows how long a game has been going followed by what I think is supposed to be the time limit which only displays as a zero for now. It'll also tell you if a game is in SETUP.

Still, I don't quite understand why it takes me longer to get into a game than it does to get into a match in the Outfit demo.