Halo: Reach “Bending The Xbox As Far As It'll Bend”

[Evil Avatar]

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Edge Online has posted a couple of quotes (http://www.edge-online.com/news/halo-reach-%E2%80%9Cbending-the-xbox-as-far-as-itll-bend%E2%80%9D) from the Halo: Reach interview found in the first issue of the dead tree version (http://www.edge-online.com/features/out-soon-e211) of their website, including word from Bungie that they are pushing the Xbox 360 to its limits.

“We are… taking every advantage of everything on the CPU and GPU, and every bit of memory in order to produce the look of Reach beyond anything of Halo 3,” said the game’s creative director, Marcus Lehto. “We're pushing it as far as we can go. With every iteration we understand what more we can exploit with the hardware.”

I can see how emulating the art style from Gears of War would push Bungie's skills to their limits.

[Johan]

including word from Bungie that they are pushing the Xbox 360 to its limits.


Oh, that's just awesome.

[Venkman]

I don't really look to bungie for advances in tech anymore. I hope they surprise me.

[Salesmunn]

Get those extended warranties ready!!

[drakkarim]

pushing it to its limits? please, as if there's anything left in there to wring out.

[Syl]

I've never liked bungie's execution in art style. I think the halo games are kind of ugly, honestly. I never played ODST, but all the previous ones just seem... off.

[Ranhert]

just like ODST pushed my limits as a consumer

[Conner Dain]

just like ODST pushed my limits as a consumer

Agreed. I bought it on the recommendation of a friend (an admitted Halo freak..I should have known better) and umm, gee. It's Halo. Wow. Big surprise there.

[Vandenh]

Oh dear, another tread full of emo whiners. Cmdo you guys actually love games?

[bazookalad]

This issue of Edge also shows some in game shots of Dead Space 2.

Nothing to graphic - the new suit is described as a "space ninja" and the claustrophobic corridors setting is making way for more larger varied environments

Also creepy child like alien with long really long fingers and heads that pop open when you give them a thwack!

[Flatulus]

including word from Bungie that they are pushing the Xbox 360 to its limits.
So the Xbox 360 max screen resolution is 1080p right? I'm not holding my breath on that!
I wonder if the will even be 720p or rather sub 720p like Halo 3.

[Agnostic Pope]

Oh dear, another tread full of emo whiners. Cmdo you guys actually love games?

Good games that is!

[Anenome]

One of the great things about the original Halo was that you're the first of a new breed, essentially your a technological superhero with a mysterious past. Changing that whole psychology to make you just one among many undercut the premise pretty heavily, even though it was inevitable. *shrug*

[Elysium]

I for one absolutely believe that this game is going to push some boundaries. People tend to look only to Halo's graphics, which in the past haven't really been cutting edge, but consider what is going on under the hood. There's the awesome AI, huge environments, large scale battles, tremendous sound engine, saved films, all running at a faultless 30fps no matter how much shit is going down. I dare people to mention a single comparable game that does all this.

[evild]

I don't really look to bungie for advances in tech anymore. I hope they surprise me.

They're already more advanced than most of their competitors. Halo 2's MP lobby/matchmaking is better than all current gen MP games. For cryin' in the shower, MW2 just introduced host migration like it was some big thing.

If you're developing a MP portion to your game, it should be a requirement you have an Xbox with Halo 2 MP lobby/matchmaking running 24-7. That is your benchmark. You need to achieve AT LEAST that level.

[yutt]

One of the great things about the original Halo was that you're the first of a new breed, essentially your a technological superhero with a mysterious past. Changing that whole psychology to make you just one among many undercut the premise pretty heavily, even though it was inevitable. *shrug*
That is the impression the original gave, but the reality is Master Chief was the last of a breed of technological and genetic super heroes. It was much more meaningful to me knowing everything that humanity had lost immediately before Master Chief et al. started pushing back.

The Fall of Reach is really the pivotal point of the entire Halo mythology, and could potentially be very interesting. It is unfortunate none of the game presented the universe in a compelling way, because it really is rich with history and interesting characters occurrences.

And unless Halo: Reach is much better than the previous games, Bungie is giving it all up before they even gave their creation a fair representation in game form. Bummer.

[wastedyears]

People tend to look only to Halo's graphics, which in the past haven't really been cutting edge, but consider what is going on under the hood. There's the awesome AI, huge environments, large scale battles, tremendous sound engine, saved films, all running at a faultless 30fps no matter how much shit is going down. I dare people to mention a single comparable game that does all this.

To say the graphics in ODST were substandard would be a huge understatement, especially the character models. And I assume you don't mean ODST runs 'at a faultless 30 fps' because I played that game twice, and experienced very noticable framerate stutters each time.

[Nilych]

they are pushing the Xbox 360 to its limits.

D'awwww...It thinks it's a PC.

[lost]

I dare people to mention a single comparable game that does all this.

Battlefield Bad Company
COD:MW2
Far Cry 2

They all do that and do something more impressive than replays which have very little to do with visuals anyway.

[Kragg]

Eh, Halo is Halo. I like it, but it's not my favorite franchise. It is however a gold standard that Microsoft and Bungie make their coin off of, so you probably won't see a PR statement released that says

“We're just not pushing it as far as we can go. With every iteration we understand what more we can exploit with the hardware to make a mediocre product."

I would laugh if they did that though. :)

[LilAbner]

I'm pretty impressed that the graphics of 360 games are holding up very well more than four years after its release. Makes me wonder if we're near the peak, graphically speaking...

[NuK]

I played ODST for 5 minutes. It then red-ringed my 360. After mailing the 360 back and getting it fixed, I still haven't felt one iota of impulse to toss ODST back in. What if it "pushes the limits" again?

[BabyJesus]

I played ODST for 5 minutes. It then red-ringed my 360. After mailing the 360 back and getting it fixed, I still haven't felt one iota of impulse to toss ODST back in. What if it "pushes the limits" again?

What an exquisitely stupid statement.

[Anenome]

Once I found a lightswitch in the closet--didn't even know it had a light. So I turned it on and there was an earthquake! I'll never do that again :P

[Ranhert]

Once I had a girlfriend, we fooled around, I got herpes. I'll never do that again. Seriously I'll never do that again.

--Not a true story.

[Anenome]

Once I had a girlfriend, we fooled around, I got herpes. I'll never do that again. Seriously I'll never do that again.

--Not a true story.
Nono, the joke is the false-correlation of cause->effect. You really -can- get herpes from a girl :P

It'd be more like: I kissed this girl and a car crashed into my house! I can't afford to have cars keeping crashing into my house so we broke up.

[CSargeP]

I've never met someone who would refuse to play Halo at a party. Never. People give Halo a lot of crap but it's still a very fun franchise. I haven't played Halo 3 in a few months and I haven't played ODST, but I'm looking forward to this.

[Johan]

the joke is the false-correlation of cause->effect.

There's a real correlation between using your 360 and seeing it head to an early grave, however, particularly with older models. That's not tied to any particular piece of software, but it is reality, and it's statistically significant beyond the rates of other consoles/hardware.

Turn it on, and you risk its death. :shrugs: Such is life.

[Anenome]

Everyone knows that. But he said he played it for what, 5 minutes, and he ascribed that and its "pushing limits" to the RROD rather than to all his previous playing and the fact that it's just going to eventually happen.

[Zurik]

I always felt Halo was kinda like the new Goldeneye, not the best game but something multiplayer that everyone seems to enjoy. Still, ODST was so damn boring I don't know if I'd try another Halo game after it. Let's hope they really change it up and add some innovations to this one!

[Chimpbot]

One of the great things about the original Halo was that you're the first of a new breed, essentially your a technological superhero with a mysterious past. Changing that whole psychology to make you just one among many undercut the premise pretty heavily, even though it was inevitable. *shrug*

The exact opposite is true, actually. Master Chief was the last of an effectively dead breed. He was the final remnant of what many in the Halo-verse deemed a failed experiment. Reach, however, goes back to the heyday of the Spartan project; back to when they were numerous, powerful and brutal.
I'm actually kind of excited to see entire squads and battalions of Spartans running around.

[Anenome]

You people and your reading the backstory are cutting my point to pieces :P

All I did was play the game years ago and rely on my foggy memory :P

So, if the Spartan was a failed experiment why are troopers around me dying like flies in Halo 1 while I have a shield, and I'm the goddamn hero of the game.

And why is everyone a Spartan in the later games.

...failed experiment.

[Froggy]

There's a real correlation between using your 360 and seeing it head to an early grave, however, particularly with older models. That's not tied to any particular piece of software, but it is reality, and it's statistically significant beyond the rates of other consoles/hardware.

Turn it on, and you risk its death. :shrugs: Such is life.

Do dead 360s go to heaven?

[NuK]

What an exquisitely stupid statement.

thanks Jesus. What's the stupid statement? Just so you know, the lack of impetus to play ODST and the fact it may red ring my 360 are only loosely coupled, at best. My experience with the game was tainted due to my experience, to be sure, but the game played like ass. Just my .02

[NuK]

also, i apologize for my sarcasm causing such a stir. I should have added a little SMILEY face or maybe a ~~ to indicate my sarcasm regarding ODST red ringing my 360 again. Jeez people

[Johan]

Do dead 360s go to heaven?

They go to hell, where they become a source of heat for the inferno.

[Froggy]

They go to hell, where they become a source of heat for the inferno.

TeeCakes can write the scripture.

[altaraxic]

hmm why are they worried about the visuals? how about the repetitive gameplay?

[Wyrm]

You people and your reading the backstory are cutting my point to pieces :P

All I did was play the game years ago and rely on my foggy memory :P

So, if the Spartan was a failed experiment why are troopers around me dying like flies in Halo 1 while I have a shield, and I'm the goddamn hero of the game.

And why is everyone a Spartan in the later games.

...failed experiment.

You do know it's a prequel, right? And the Spartans in Reach are Spartan IIIs (well most of them) which came after the batch that included the Master Chief (Spartan IIs). This is important because the Spartan IIIs aren't nearly as resilient as the originals. They learned from the mistakes of the first and second batches, and the third batch was cheaper to produce and slightly more expendable. They sent them on missions behind enemy lines (read: suicide missions) because they were easier to make and train.

So, I have a feeling you'll probably watch all of your Spartans die throughout the course of the game.

[Chimpbot]

You people and your reading the backstory are cutting my point to pieces :P

All I did was play the game years ago and rely on my foggy memory :P

So, if the Spartan was a failed experiment why are troopers around me dying like flies in Halo 1 while I have a shield, and I'm the goddamn hero of the game.

And why is everyone a Spartan in the later games.

...failed experiment.

It was a failed experiment because out of the thousand of potential Spartans they started with, only a couple hundred made it through. Out of those couple hundred, only one survived up until the first video game. The Spartans were in the program since early childhood; they were stolen from their homes and modified through gene therapy and cybernetic implants. Most of them died. Of the ones who survived, many were left crippled and were essentially used as high-ranking super intelligence officers.
It was called a failure because of the cost, both in money and spent lives.

There are loads of Spartans in Reach because it's a prequel. Most of them will be gone by the end of the story.

[brandonjclark]

{last two posts}

Wow, I never really thought much of Halo's story. Sounds deep....!

[NuK]

Wikipedia has a truly staggering amount of information about it, as well as the point that Larry Niven was asked to write the first Halo novel, but declined...I had thought that Halo was based in his universe but I guess they just borrowed the ringworld concept.

[Dag-Sabot]

Definetly the twitch generation's "War and Peace".

[sgtslappy]

Once I had a girlfriend, we fooled around, I got herpes. I'll never do that again. Seriously I'll never do that again.

--Not a true story.

Unfortunately for you, the untrue thing about the statement is you got it from a man, not a woman.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

Eh, after the mediocre game that was Halo 3 I finally realized Halo was really not all that good (although not being able to figure that out after Halo 2 must kinda make me an idiot) and not programmed/coded well. Since, I haven't cared about a Halo game since. I hope this will sway me, but I doubt it. I just really feel in Bungie's hands that Halo will always be a heavily flawed franchise. What started as a console FPS revolution now just looks slow, stale and outdated.

[yutt]

{last two posts}

Wow, I never really thought much of Halo's story. Sounds deep....!
It is, but the games are terrible at telling it.

[yutt]

Speaking of which, ilovebees is still one of the coolest radio dramas ever:
http://www.ilovebees.com/links.html

Listen in order.

[aaostro]

I can see how emulating the art style from Gears of War would push Bungie's skills to their limits.


Hahaha! Well put : D

[Evil Avatar]

Once I found a lightswitch in the closet--didn't even know it had a light. So I turned it on and there was an earthquake! I'll never do that again :P

I was in your closet and I hit that switch by accident. Sorry Haiti! :p

[Evil Avatar]

They go to hell, where they become a source of heat for the inferno.

Everyone knows that Satan sits on a throne built of baby skulls and dead Xbox 360's.

[DeathtollWRX]

I was in your closet and I hit that switch by accident. Sorry Haiti! :p

too soon Evilavatar!

[brandonjclark]

True, Evil has no boundries!

[Venkman]

They're already more advanced than most of their competitors. Halo 2's MP lobby/matchmaking is better than all current gen MP games. For cryin' in the shower, MW2 just introduced host migration like it was some big thing.

If you're developing a MP portion to your game, it should be a requirement you have an Xbox with Halo 2 MP lobby/matchmaking running 24-7. That is your benchmark. You need to achieve AT LEAST that level.

I give them credit for their amazing multiplayer development, but nothing else. The single player of that franchise stalled a long time ago in more departments than graphics.

[Venkman]

It is, but the games are terrible at telling it.

Ain't that the truth!

[blackzc]

just like ODST pushed my limits as a consumer


ha!

I can see it now, the glowing red disk drive, xbox huffing and puffing during loading screens..

[skinnyboy30]

so that means it will be in at LEAST 720P and 1900x1250 resolution? LOLOLOLOLOL

[Zeal]

after playing mass effect 2, i see nothing graphically impressive with this game.

[lost]

after playing mass effect 2, i see nothing graphically impressive with this game.

... I am speechless.

[Anenome]

after playing mass effect 2, i see nothing graphically impressive with this game.
You mean after pirating it. You fucking pirate, get the hell out of here. Come on, let's hear you backtrack--claim you're a goddamn journalist or developer again, goddamn pirate.

[Evil Avatar]

after playing mass effect 2, i see nothing graphically impressive with this game.

Ladies and gentleman, I now present you with the winner of the Douchebag of the Year award.

[Zeal]

Eh, after the mediocre game that was Halo 3 I finally realized Halo was really not all that good (although not being able to figure that out after Halo 2 must kinda make me an idiot) and not programmed/coded well. Since, I haven't cared about a Halo game since. I hope this will sway me, but I doubt it. I just really feel in Bungie's hands that Halo will always be a heavily flawed franchise. What started as a console FPS revolution now just looks slow, stale and outdated.

the problem is that halo 1 was the holy grail of gaming. completely perfect in every way with the most solid engine i've ever seen. how jason jones managed to program something as halo 1 using only C is still beyond my understanding today. i hacked the game over and over trying to make its physics engine crash and the only possible result was slowdown due to the hardware's RAM.

halo 2 was a piece of absolute shit coded by a bunch of hacks with not even half the original team involved. halo 3 was an excellent return to form but unavoidably lacked the magic of the original. you couldn't strike gold twice.

either way, halo 1 and the amazing mythology created by brandon boran, jason jones, alexander seropian, and eric nylund...that is the reason i am proud to call myself a true halo fan.

......or should i say the Halo motherfucking authority.

[Anenome]

Whatever, Cap'n Zeal.

[Zeal]

Whatever, Cap'n Zeal.

do you suffer from autism. serious question.

why do you even post.

[Zeal]

whatever man, too lazy to troll tonight. back to Ass Effect 2.

(considering this game shows more hot alien booty than the hentai you're used to faping to at your Lolicons.)

[Anenome]

do you suffer from autism. serious question.

why do you even post.
STFU, pirate.
STFU pirate.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

the problem is that halo 1 was the holy grail of gaming.

That is the funniest thing I have EVER read. I seriously LOLed HARD upon reading this. Congratulations; your hilarious quote has made its way into my signature.

[Anenome]

That's right, run away like a little bitch, conveniently ignore the fact that you've been caught admitting to pirating the game. You're a fucking asshole, you know that? Not only are you a whiny bitch of a troll, but you're pirating one of the best games of the year. That makes you a low-life piece of scum. Screw you, don't even come back here.

[Zeal]

That is the funniest thing I have EVER read. I seriously LOLed HARD upon reading this. Congratulations; your hilarious quote has made its way into my signature.

i charge a $1 royalty fee per Zeal quote, playa. lol...jk. go for it. :)

[TekkenZaibatsu]

That's right, run away like a little bitch, conveniently ignore the fact that you've been caught admitting to pirating the game. You're a fucking asshole, you know that? Not only are you a whiny bitch of a troll, but you're pirating one of the best games of the year. That makes you a low-life piece of scum. Screw you, don't even come back here.

I don't care about that. I just can't get over the fact he called Halo 1 "the holy grail of gaming." I cried I was laughing so hard. He must not have played any REAL games to think that.

Don't get me wrong, Halo 1 was definitely solid, but "holy grail?" Easily MUST be in the Top 50 or less of most ridiculous things ever said on this forum.

[Anenome]

i charge a $1 royalty fee per Zeal quote, playa. lol...jk. go for it. :)
Get lost, jerk.

[Zeal]

That's right, run away like a little bitch, conveniently ignore the fact that you've been caught admitting to pirating the game. You're a fucking asshole, you know that? Not only are you a whiny bitch of a troll, but you're pirating one of the best games of the year. That makes you a low-life piece of scum. Screw you, don't even come back here.

lol man, the fail with you is so legendary that i just love watching you dig yourself a deeper hole. wal*mart in georgia, alabama, and texas broke the street date and even forced bioware to lock an official sticky on their forums stating that early release discussions are not allowed. there's thousands of people right now playing legitimate copies.

the jealousy is coming off you like stink on shit.

[Anenome]

I don't care about that. I just can't get over the fact he called Halo 1 "the holy grail of gaming." I cried I was laughing so hard. He must not have played any REAL games to think that.

Don't get me wrong, Halo 1 was definitely solid, but "holy grail?" Easily MUST be in the Top 50 or less of most ridiculous things ever said on this forum.
Most of us are over that already because for the longest time he had this in his signature: "Play halo or play nothing" and every time he talked about any other game he looked absolutely ridiculous.

You really don't care that he's pirating ME2? I'm surprised. You should support great games, you should support the companies that make great games by buying their games. As far as I'm concerned, Zeal can go fuck himself.

[Capt_Thad]

I don't care about that. I just can't get over the fact he called Halo 1 "the holy grail of gaming." I cried I was laughing so hard. He must not have played any REAL games to think that.

Don't get me wrong, Halo 1 was definitely solid, but "holy grail?" Easily MUST be in the Top 50 or less of most ridiculous things ever said on this forum.

heh Halo introduced a generation of gamers to online shooters. Your first is supposed to be your most memorable, right?

[TekkenZaibatsu]

lol man, the fail with you is so legendary...

Dude, you just called Halo "the holy grail of gaming." You're in no position to talk about "legendary fail." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[TekkenZaibatsu]

heh Halo introduced a generation of gamers to online shooters. Your first is supposed to be your most memorable, right?

That doesn't make it "'the holy grail of gaming." Do I really NEED to defend this???

[Zeal]

halo is and always will be the holy grail of gaming. Moses himself said this.

[Zeal]

also, if anyone wants to play ME2 early, seriously just hit up your local wal*mart. as far as i know, they're still letting it go while they got it.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

You really don't care that he's pirating ME2? I'm surprised. You should support great games, you should support the companies that make great games by buying their games. As far as I'm concerned, Zeal can go fuck himself.

Dude, if I got pissed about every person that pirated something, I'd be a total emo. It's not wort being upset about. People pirate shit; there's nothing you can do about it. If we took a poll of EVERYONE on this site that has EVER pirated something (if you are upset about GAMES being pirated it only makes sense you feel that way about ALL forms of media), and everyone HAD to tell the truth, you'd probably be surprised how many people sometimes pirate.

It's just not worth getting upset over. *Shrugs*

[Capt_Thad]

That doesn't make it "'the holy grail of gaming." Do I really NEED to defend this???

Clearly you missed my intention there. Maybe I should have used a smirking smiley of some sort at the end. What I was implying is that the game is over-hyped due to the fact that it introduced people to the genre, not because the game is great. I begrudge people going on about Halo being a revolutionary pinnacle of gaming, because deep down I recognize that they just don't know any better.

[pwnophobia]

halo is and always will be the holy grail of gaming. Moses himself said this.

Tell us how exactly how you got Mass Effect 2.

http://www.argentinepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/software-pirate.gif

[Zeal]

Dude, if I got pissed about every person that pirated something, I'd be a total emo. It's not wort being upset about. People pirate shit; there's nothing you can do about it. If we took a poll of EVERYONE on this site that has EVER pirated something (if you are upset about GAMES being pirated it only makes sense you feel that way about ALL forms of media), and everyone HAD to tell the truth, you'd probably be surprised how many people sometimes pirate.

It's just not worth getting upset over. *Shrugs*

piracy was not even the discussion in this thread until Anenome pretended to be the Internet Defender and go into a righteous tirade of idiocy. while i have of course pirated games like everyone else here (not even debatable) i didn't have to pirate ME2. that being said, my opinion remains that it's one of the most graphically impressing and engrossing games i've played since Bioshock.

and to be frank, most people who go on and on about the evils of piracy are typically upset because they don't have the technical know-how to pull it off themselves. believe me, they would. i simply don't think it's necessary 99% of the time.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

halo is and always will be the holy grail of gaming. Moses himself said this.

You REALLY must be illiterate and not have an OUNCE of technical knowledge to actually believe something so PAINFULLY false. I don't go off and insult posters unwarranted, but you seriously have to be a massive idiot to hold Halo as "the holy grail of gaming." You're basically saying Halo is better than everything else, nothing taken into account. It's flat out retarded.

To say Halo is a massively flawed and poorly coded series is an understatement, and while Halo 1 was a decent game, to say it was a fairly simplistic shooter is also an understatement. If any console shooter could take title of "holy grail" it probably would have been Goldeneye or Perfect Dark. No game that simplistic and mediocre is "the holy grail" of anything.


Buuuuut something tells me that any common sensibility is wasted on you.

[pwnophobia]

they don't have the technical know-how to pull it off themselves. believe me, they would. i simply don't think it's necessary 99% of the time.

.....What?

Do you honestly believe that the people on an internet forum don't know how to pirate video games?

[TekkenZaibatsu]

piracy was not even the discussion in this thread until Anenome pretended to be the Internet Defender and go into a righteous tirade of idiocy. while i have of course pirated games like everyone else here (not even debatable) i didn't have to pirate ME2. that being said, my opinion remains that it's one of the most graphically impressing and engrossing games i've played since Bioshock.

and to be frank, most people who go on and on about the evils of piracy are typically upset because they don't have the technical know-how to pull it off themselves. believe me, they would. i simply don't think it's necessary 99% of the time.

I agree. And it's obvious as far as the idiocy goes. I'm just saying I think it's unnecessary to get worked up like that over piracy. over being an idiot? Maybe, LOL. But yeah...

[TekkenZaibatsu]

.....What?

Do you honestly believe that the people on an internet forum don't know how to pirate video games?

I wonder if he's making himself look this stupid on purpose. It's getting REALLY sad. I see a MASS of facepalm pics coming...

[Anenome]

lol man, the fail with you is so legendary that i just love watching you dig yourself a deeper hole. wal*mart in georgia, alabama, and texas broke the street date and even forced bioware to lock an official sticky on their forums stating that early release discussions are not allowed. there's thousands of people right now playing legitimate copies.

the jealousy is coming off you like stink on shit.
Jealousy, please. I could care less who plays it when. Only piracy can incense me.

However, I don't find any reference to ME2's street date being broken with a cursory or secondary search. Care to provide some corroboration? Care to provide proof you live in one of these places?

Frankly I'm having trouble finding any info at all about a street date being broken.

This site (http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=717288&forum=144) has a mention of someone's brother's cousin getting a copy and little more than that.

The OST however was released on the 19th, perhaps your cursory google search looking for an alibi turned that up and you didn't read closely enough?

I see nothing there, just an idiot trying to brag about something with no proof whatsoever.

I know at wal-mart that the fine for breaking street date is huge. My friend is the department manager of electronics and he said that it was like, $2000 and he'd lose his job, even if it was someone else that sold the game early.

Yeah, that must be the thread you were talking about, because it is locked. However, there's no evidence of it actually happening presented in that thread, and the thread it refers to also has zero info, that's the second reference to it on Google. There's nothing in there.

I think you're lying, and your pitiful attempt to cover your tracks sucks, you damn pirate.

[Zeal]

.....What?

Do you honestly believe that the people on an internet forum don't know how to pirate video games?

correct. the percentage of people who actually pirate 360 games are extremely low. i would say it's accurate to claim less than 5% of the userbase. besides, you're simply going to get your 360 banned inevitably anyway. microsoft has servers comparing bits of legitimate copies with download copies in real time the second you connect. this was how thousands of people were originally banned, considering most pirated games are padded and incomplete (ie, missing data).

[Anenome]

Fine, take a picture of the ME2 packaging, in your hand, with a post-it note that says 'Zeal' on it, and post it to prove that you bought the game. That shouldn't be hard for anyone on here to do in a good two minutes.

[Mojopin]

Fine, take a picture of the ME2 packaging, in your hand, with a post-it note that says 'Zeal' on it, and post it to prove that you bought the game. That shouldn't be hard for anyone on here to do in a good two minutes.

I honestly don't think he or anyone else owes you shit... who the fuck are you? I don't like pirates anymore than anyone else but you are being a big douche thinking you are entitled to anything other than what someone says is the truth. If you don't want to believe them that is fine... but thinking you are deserving of some "proof" is... for lack of a better term... ghey.

[Anenome]

I honestly don't think he or anyone else owes you shit... who the fuck are you? I don't like pirates anymore than anyone else but you are being a big douche thinking you are entitled to anything other than what someone says is the truth. If you don't want to believe them that is fine... but thinking you are deserving of some "proof" is... for lack of a better term... ghey.
I never said he owes me proof, I simply offered a way for him to clear his name. He's not going to take it, obviously. And I'm speaking as a guy who's already put down money on the game and who is a huge fan of Bioware and ME2. You can't say piracy doesn't hurt all of us as gamers. And if someone walks in here implicitly bragging about pirating a game they deserve to be treated like dirt. How do you not think people are going to conclude you're pirating it if it's 3 days pre-release date? And I can't find any evidence that any store in the country has broken street date, check for yourself, don't take my word for it. Zeal pirating ME2 is still the most likely scenario at this point.

[Zeal]

I honestly don't think he or anyone else owes you shit... who the fuck are you? I don't like pirates anymore than anyone else but you are being a big douche thinking you are entitled to anything other than what someone says is the truth. If you don't want to believe them that is fine... but thinking you are deserving of some "proof" is... for lack of a better term... ghey.

he wouldn't dare make allegations like this in real life. do you know why? he would either get his fucking teeth knocked out, sued, or a combination of both.

also, just to throw it out there, he's decided to make a blog entry telling everyone that i have pirated the game, without a single quote or shred of proof even alluding to such. as i responded to his blog, and will further state here, i received my copy 3 days ago due to pre-street date at wal*mart, along with various other thousands of consumers in the southern united states. the street date of halo 2, 3 and ODST were also identically broken by the same outlet.

if moderators on this forum allow such activity to continue, they're not doing their fucking jobs.

[Anenome]

he wouldn't dare make allegations like this in real life. do you know why? he would either get his fucking teeth knocked out, sued, or a combination of both.

also, just to throw it out there, he's decided to make a blog entry telling everyone that i have pirated the game, without a single quote or shred of proof even alluding to such. as i responded to his blog, and will further state here, i received my copy 3 days ago due to pre-street date at wal*mart, along with various other thousands of consumers in the southern united states. the street date of halo 2, 3 and ODST were also identically broken by the same outlet.

if moderators on this forum allow such activity to continue, they're not doing their fucking jobs.
Ya, except that there's zero evidence except your word that -anyone- has broken the street date. Got a link that shows -any- evidence of a broken street date conclusively online, anywhere? Anywhere? No. There's not. I looked. And your BS about those three cities, where did that info come from? I couldn't find anything about that even searching for it by name. Put up or shut up.

If you actually do produce evidence I will apologize to you, because I'm actually a decent human being. Until then you just plain got caught.

[Johan]

W. T. F. :rolleyes:

[Anenome]

It's pathetic when:
A. People threaten to sue you for libel, and
B. They have no idea what libel means and how it's prosecuted.

You must take me for a teenager to think that BS would work.

If you guys want a laugh, look at the sad attempts to intimidate me he left on my blog post.

[bickle]

Agreed. I bought it on the recommendation of a friend (an admitted Halo freak..I should have known better) and umm, gee. It's Halo. Wow. Big surprise there.

Dude, you are actually complaining that it was like Halo? Did you not see the big "HALO" on the box?

[Mojopin]

Ya, except that there's zero evidence except your word that -anyone- has broken the street date. Got a link that shows -any- evidence of a broken street date conclusively online, anywhere? Anywhere? No. There's not. I looked. And your BS about those three cities, where did that info come from? I couldn't find anything about that even searching for it by name. Put up or shut up.

If you actually do produce evidence I will apologize to you, because I'm actually a decent human being. Until then you just plain got caught.

The breaking of street dates has happened so much... do you really think people consider it "newsworthy" nowadays?

[Mojopin]

Oh and he said "...if this was a real life affair", stop making it sound like he threatened you or something. He is stating a fact.

[Anenome]

Oh and he said "...if this was a real life affair", stop making it sound like he threatened you or something. He is stating a fact.
Here's some of the things he's said so far on my blog, you tell me if they sound like threats:

making generalized and false accusations like this can land you in serious trouble and i WILL monitor future comments and quotes.

i've cached this entry for future use.

...you're an exceptionally stupid anime watching piece of shit.

in closing, let me just say you can go fuck yourself. if you wish to further engage me in places where i am not partially limited by this forum's parameters--i welcome it. choose IRC, AIM, Yahoo or any other public chat room and come get your ass ended. i have squashed much bigger, intelligent, and worthy trolls than yourself, so i'll welcome you to experience an unrestrained Zeal in what i'll call a learning experience. state your terms.

These are not the words of a reasonable human being. But it's not like we have cause to expect anything else from Zeal, he's been exactly like this from day one. Meh.

I'll say it a third time now (and I hardly care anymore), I'll back off simply because I allow that it's perfectly possible someone somewhere could've broken street date, three days ago (according to Zeal). Even though it's extremely improbable that there would be no evidence for this anywhere on the internet.

[Zeal]

out of this interest of future threads, i wish to keep my disagreements with Anenome between us, personally, and outside the parameters of this forum. no further disruptions to topics and discussions will come from my side. i will deal with him on my own terms. to clarify, these are not threats, but a way to keep a civil environment that has clearly been degraded by our ongoing disagreements.

thread topic: Halo Reach. please, continue.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

Here's some of the things he's said so far on my blog, you tell me if they sound like threats:







These are not the words of a reasonable human being. But it's not like we have cause to expect anything else from Zeal, he's been exactly like this from day one. Meh.

I'll say it a third time now (and I hardly care anymore), I'll back off simply because I allow that it's perfectly possible someone somewhere could've broken street date, three days ago (according to Zeal). Even though it's extremely improbable that there would be no evidence for this anywhere on the internet.

That last quote was hilarious. I didn't know human beings still talked like that :P

[Anenome]

out of this interest of future threads, i wish to keep my disagreements with Anenome between us, personally, and outside the parameters of this forum. no further disruptions to topics and discussions will come from my side. i will deal with him on my own terms. to clarify, these are not threats, but a way to keep a civil environment that has clearly been degraded by our ongoing disagreements.

thread topic: Halo Reach. please, continue.
Yes, yes, I'm the problem here, apparently. But I agree, let's not derail the thread further. Carry on, please.

[Primus]

The only reason to not like Halo is not owning a 360.

[Zeal]

The only reason to not like Halo is not owning a 360.

i see my spartans are dropping in.

[TekkenZaibatsu]

The only reason to not like Halo is not owning a 360.

Ugh, gotta love fanboys.

I own a 360 in spite of Halo. Seriouly, it's just a mediocre, poorly coded shooter.. It's really not anywhere near a big deal, since there are VASTLY superior shooters out there on consoles now.

[shadow763]

Silly me, I thought this thread was about Halo, and at 100 posts I thought some good discussion was going on, how I was wrong.

On the topic of ME2, I don't find it hard to believe the street date has been broken by various places. At this point most stores should have it in stock for the tuesday release.

[Anenome]

Ugh, gotta love fanboys.

I own a 360 in spite of Halo. Seriouly, it's just a mediocre, poorly coded shooter.. It's really not anywhere near a big deal, since there are VASTLY superior shooters out there on consoles now.
Sure, but you gotta admit that Halo has secured for itselfa place in the Gaming Canon. It's an important game in more than a few ways.

Halo II however, the magic was gone--such a let-down. And III never got a chance with me because II drained all enthusiasm.

And I actually liked Halo's reuse of terrain, it worked with the story and the gameplay. It's just a lot of fun.

Of course there are better FPSs now. And yes, Goldeneye is in the canon as well.

But the first in anything, when it is well done, is a revelation. Halo II can't top Halo, simply because Halo was already done once and done well :P It's impact was huge, it was fresh and fun. Halo II could only be -more- of that fun, not -new- fun.

The games that we tend to remember the most are often genre-creators or popularizers that real nail it. Eg: Super Mario 64, FFVII, Portal, WoW, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

[shadow763]

MGS3 had that sort of resonance with me that the original Halo had. After beating it I just sat there with this feeling of "wow, that was a great game". It just seem to hit all the right chords with me, and this was also how I felt after completing Halo.

I have been playing through Halo 2 as of late to see if all the hate I had for that game was justified, and it really is. Just a lot of poor enemy and level design. I guess the sophomore slump hit Bungie pretty hard. But I thought 3 was a pretty good return to form, and ODST reminded me of the first Halo a lot in many ways, and is one of my favorites. So I still like the series even with all of its faults. Its just not blind love like so many people have.

[Froggy]

Come on guys... Hug it out. :)

[Grumsh]

piracy was not even the discussion in this thread until Anenome pretended to be the Internet Defender and go into a righteous tirade of idiocy. while i have of course pirated games like everyone else here (not even debatable) i didn't have to pirate ME2. that being said, my opinion remains that it's one of the most graphically impressing and engrossing games i've played since Bioshock.

and to be frank, most people who go on and on about the evils of piracy are typically upset because they don't have the technical know-how to pull it off themselves. believe me, they would. i simply don't think it's necessary 99% of the time.

While I am nowhere near Lilly White innocent on this stand (when Napster first came out 10 years ago every college student thought it was the Shangrilah of the 2400 baud modem), I doubt the bolded text in the quote is the reason. Heck Wikipedia.org literally holds your hand on how to do it nowadays for anyone who is literate. It's more an issue of some of us actually grew up and realized that used games sales and piracey will kill our hobby(s), so we kinda.. stopped (my habit was Napster and Music 10 years ago sadly).

[Grumsh]

Oh forgot to add, I am heading to walmart tonite ^_^

[Anenome]

I think his point was that most people are not crackers (that almost sounds racial, don't it :P ). If he was really saying people are too dumb to pirate then he's an idiot :P

[Zeal]

Oh forgot to add, I am heading to walmart tonite ^_^

you'll get a copy.

[Anenome]

Oh forgot to add, I am heading to walmart tonite ^_^
Do tell us how it goes ;)

[Capt_Thad]

heh Gamestop loads up on exclusive pre-order bonuses (and crappy trade-in discounts)... Wal-Mart frequently breaks street-date. Competition!

[Zeal]

heh Gamestop loads up on exclusive pre-order bonuses (and crappy trade-in discounts)... Wal-Mart frequently breaks street-date. Competition!

gamestop is the rudest bunch of fat, fuckin nerds i've ever delt with. i walked in once when the pspgo first hit and asked:

"can i play my old psp games with the new go?"

the response i got was:

employee: "no."

me: "well, then how do i play games on the go?"

employee: *cracking nerd voice* "YOU CANT."

me: "what does that even mean? how DO you play GAMES on the system?"

employee: "you have to download them INTO the system, but you can't...play regular games."

i told him to fuck his own face and walked out. i'll never deal with those freaks of nature again. it's a clear example of someone trying to belittle the customer based on the preconception that i was a 'noob', if you will.

[Zeal]

oh, another hilarious example i just have to share.

walked back in once looking for shin megami tensei for psp. i actually speak japanese fluently, but i naturally assume most employees at GS at least do not. out of kindness, i began to spell the name out after i pronounced the title, but the little japanese weeaboo behind the counter was quick to attempt to correct me with:

"sir, it is pronounced SHIN MEGAMEE TENSEE!"

i seriously cracked the fuck up and retorted: "can i just get he game, mam."

sigh

[Capt_Thad]

Our Gamestops all used to be Rhino's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_Video_Games), and I guess they sort of carried over the cool gamer sales clerk mentality over after the buyout. Guess I just got lucky, but all the GS clerks I've dealt with here are pretty cool. They usually know something about what I'm buying (cool to have a clerk get excited about seeing your purchase and even offer you some tips and stuff), and I never get any hassle when I need to trade something defective back in or if there was some other issue with the purchase.

Somehow I'm always getting stuck in line behind people who don't know much about gaming (usually parents buying random shovelware for their kids), and they're pretty good about handling questions and being friendly/polite.

heh Guess I should mention that this is a college town (one of the largest student pops in the US), so our Gamestops are all run by students (who can't afford to not have a job and can be easily replaced) instead of the gamer nerd outcasts I'm always hearing about everywhere else. :cool:

[Anenome]

oh, another hilarious example i just have to share.

walked back in once looking for shin megami tensei for psp. i actually speak japanese fluently, but i naturally assume most employees at GS at least do not. out of kindness, i began to spell the name out after i pronounced the title, but the little japanese weeaboo behind the counter was quick to attempt to correct me with:

"sir, it is pronounced SHIN MEGAMEE TENSEE!"

i seriously cracked the fuck up and retorted: "can i just get he game, mam."

sigh
That's pretty funny. I was in a Japanese import store 'round here awhile back--I speak Japanese, not quite fluently though. There's a Japanese dude behind the counter, and as I'm browsing another Japanese dude comes up to him and says, "Chotto, Evangelion OST wa ikura desu ka?"

I had to laugh when the Japanese clerk frowned and said, "I'm sorry, I don't speak Japanese." :P

[Anenome]

forgot the translation: "How much is the Evangelion OST?"

[Agnostic Pope]

The only reason to not like Halo is not owning a 360.

I have a 360 and I could care less about that franchise.

[Zeal]

not spoiling anything, just sending out a little inspiration:

mass effect 2 has the most epic final confrontation since battling Lavos in chrono trigger. the scale and epicness of Halo has been vastly surpassed by the end of your gaming experience. this is what gaming is all about. this is the way it was meant to be done.

final verdict: 10 out of 10. Explosion of Epicness.

[Agnostic Pope]

not spoiling anything, just sending out a little inspiration:

mass effect 2 has the most epic final confrontation since battling Lavos in chrono trigger. the scale and epicness of Halo has been vastly surpassed by the end of your gaming experience. this is what gaming is all about. this is the way it was meant to be done.

final verdict: 10 out of 10. Explosion of Epicness.

You got a copy already? Fucking jealous!

[Zeal]

You got a copy already? Fucking jealous!

this may be hard for you to believe, and it may sound like i'm on meth, but....

i'm..........well, i'm from the future, dude.

[Agnostic Pope]

this may be hard for you to believe, and it may sound like i'm on meth, but....

i'm..........well, i'm from the future, dude.

Nawwwww you just sound like you are on acid man.

[Zeal]

Nawwwww you just sound like you are on acid man.

lol i like this guy. in all seriousness, i was just able to get a copy a few days early from a wal*mart who simply decided to sell'em the second the stock arrived. there's also, i'd say, at least 15-20 people on gamefaqs forums who were also able to secure a copy a little early through the same means.

some people will say i'm lying or whatever, but it's seriously insulting to infer i'd lie about something as silly as a videogame. i recommend you simply walk into your local wal*mart and ask for it by name. do not call, you won't get the same response. it all comes down to who's working and if they're willing to walk back and sell you a copy. worth a try.

i did the same with halo 3 and halo odst. just walk in and say you're there to pick your copy up.

[Agnostic Pope]

i recommend you simply walk into your local wal*mart and ask for it by name. do not call, you won't get the same response. [/B]it all comes down to who's working and if they're willing to walk back and sell you a copy. worth a try.

i did the same with halo 3 and halo odst. just walk in and say you're there to pick your copy up.
I tried that, they know their shit! :( The same guy that works their is waiting for it but his supervisor is not letting us get this game for some reason!

You got it for what pc/360? What is your gamertag if you got it on 360?

[Zeal]

i bought it for 360. my gamertag is James Cameron (really, lol).

i canceled Live a few months back (simply didn't use it) but it may still show up under games played or whatever. i've use a silver account now for downloadable content.

[pwnophobia]

i did the same with halo 3 and halo odst. just walk in and say you're there to pick your copy up.

Please post a picture of your receipt if you want to be taken seriously.

[Agnostic Pope]

Please post a picture of your receipt if you want to be taken seriously.

You can just check his gamertag you know...if he is plug in it will show if he has Mass Effect 2.

[pwnophobia]

You can just check his gamertag you know...if he is plug in it will show if he has Mass Effect 2.

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=James+Cameron

[Agnostic Pope]

Last seen 07/13/09! Nope he hasn't connected in a while! :D

[Johan]

This thread is embarrassing. Also, popcorn is delicious.

[Zeal]

Please post a picture of your receipt if you want to be taken seriously.

i owe you nothing. seriously.

[Zeal]

Last seen 07/13/09! Nope he hasn't connected in a while! :D

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9167/mass2u.jpg

sorry for the poor image quality. this is how shepard looks if you take the renegade path and go terminator mode. love the eyes.

[Agnostic Pope]

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9167/mass2u.jpg

sorry for the poor image quality. this is how shepard looks if you take the renegade path and go terminator mode. love the eyes.

OMG A GAMECUBE!

Could have gone for the actual game in your hand...but I guess so...:D You are too clean man!

[Zeal]

OMG A GAMECUBE!

Could have gone for the actual game in your hand...but I guess so...:D You are too clean man!

oh, i just use that thing to stash my dope. the po-po never look in nintendo systems.

[pwnophobia]

Your picture proves nothing. (http://torrentz.com/search?q=mass+effect+2)

You conveniently don't have a live account because if you went online with it you'd be banned and you know this.

[Zeal]

Your picture proves nothing. (http://torrentz.com/search?q=mass+effect+2)

you have seriously become nothing more than a lowrate troll. and the picture wasn't even for you, but whatever.

[Agnostic Pope]

oh, i just use that thing to stash my dope. the po-po never look in nintendo systems.

Ha!

I will play ME2 to death after work!

[Capt_Thad]

Nice setup. Looks like your cell phone camera sucks almost as much as mine does.

[Zeal]

Nice setup. Looks like your cell phone camera sucks almost as much as mine does.

appreciate it. i couldn't figure out how to stop the damn auto-focus feature so it kept zooming in and out, in and out.

[Anenome]

Your picture proves nothing. (http://torrentz.com/search?q=mass+effect+2)

You conveniently don't have a live account because if you went online with it you'd be banned and you know this.
Oh snap! That's actually a very good point.

Zeal, honestly, we asked for a picture of box in hand and a receipt of purchase.

I read the GameFAQs forum. No on there had gotten their hands on it, it was all speculation and 2nd hand reports of 'my brother's cousin got it' already.

WalMart does not, cannot sell early copies, and would be fined heavily for doing so. WalMart's computer system is incapable of actually ringing up a pre-release date game. You'd have to physically steal it to get it out of the store and have an inside-man to go into the back and get it.

Seriously, I was willing to believe that you'd gotten a date-break copy, but you just keep making it harder and harder to believe that with these evasions and half-truths. This picture is a half-truth. Anyone who pirated the game could provide exactly the same photo.

'Your picture proves nothing.'

[Zeal]

Oh snap! That's actually a very good point.

Zeal, honestly, we asked for a picture of box in hand and a receipt of purchase.

I read the GameFAQs forum. No on there had gotten their hands on it, it was all speculation and 2nd hand reports of 'my brother's cousin got it' already.

WalMart does not, cannot sell early copies, and would be fined heavily for doing so. WalMart's computer system is incapable of actually ringing up a pre-release date game. You'd have to physically steal it to get it out of the store and have an inside-man to go into the back and get it.

Seriously, I was willing to believe that you'd gotten a date-break copy, but you just keep making it harder and harder to believe that with these evasions and half-truths. This picture is a half-truth. Anyone who pirated the game could provide exactly the same photo.

'Your picture proves nothing.'

i don't think i'm making myself entirely clear here. i honestly do not give two fucks what you, any moderator, or anyone on this forum wants or requests of me. i find you incredibly annoying and i respect very few posters here. i post out of my own enjoyment and owe nothing to anyone. i chose to take a newer member a picture because i liked his attitude and wished to carry on a conversation.

i am not on any sort of trial here, i have nothing to prove, and i will never ever respect or care what you say. to me, you always will be a kid on a forum who tries far too hard to desperately be accepted by people you will never meet or truly know in real life. simply put, you define irrelevant. you are a new poster with no authority or value.

to show my seriousness, you're going on permanent ignore for the remainder of your stay.

endeth the lesson.

[pwnophobia]

Oh snap! That's actually a very good point.
'

I didn't think this many people would torrent the game:

Seeders: 1110
Leechers: 22840

[Anenome]

i don't think i'm making myself entirely clear here. i honestly do not give two fucks what you, any moderator, or anyone on this forum wants or requests of me. i find you incredibly annoying and i respect very few posters here. i post out of my own enjoyment and owe nothing to anyone. i chose to take a newer member a picture because i liked his attitude and wished to carry on a conversation.

i am not on any sort of trial here, i have nothing to prove, and i will never ever respect or care what you say. to me, you always will be a kid on a forum who tries far too hard to desperately be accepted by people you will never meet or truly know in real life. simply put, you define irrelevant. you are a new poster with no authority or value.

to show my seriousness, you're going on permanent ignore for the remainder of your stay.

endeth the lesson.
Uh, according to your note on my blog, you already did take a photo of the 'evidence' and you offered it to me and then you never posted it. I asked you to put it on imagehost, w/e, you have thus far failed to.

I even vowed to apologize to you if you posted any evidence whatsoever. I would humble myself before you, publicly, and apologize. And still, no picture, no evidence.

Enjoy your pirated copy, jerk. I'm sure I'll be really hurt by your ignoring me :P

[Grumsh]

you'll get a copy.

I tried three different employees at Walmart and even a none English speaker, all shot me down.

[Zeal]

I tried three different employees at Walmart and even a none English speaker, all shot me down.

sorry to hear.

but people claiming the game hasn't been pre-released anywhere are now officially wrong (as usual). it's all over ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mass-Effect-2-Collectors-Edition-Xbox-360-2010-NIB_W0QQitemZ250568075133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_ Games_Games?hash=item3a5705677d

just grab it if you can't wait.

[Anenome]

I tried three different employees at Walmart and even a none English speaker, all shot me down.
Lol, I don't think anyone believes Zeal anymore, tbh. Tuesday it is :P

[Anenome]

sorry to hear.

but people claiming the game hasn't been pre-released anywhere are now officially wrong (as usual). it's all over ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mass-Effect-2-Collectors-Edition-Xbox-360-2010-NIB_W0QQitemZ250568075133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_ Games_Games?hash=item3a5705677d

just grab it if you can't wait.
A. Could easily be stolen / gray copies.
B. That wasn't your story, now was it :P
C. Have yet to see any mention of an actual street date being broken by Walmart, or anywhere for that matter.

[Anenome]

Also notice this in the legitimate seller's notes (http://cgi.ebay.com/MASS-EFFECT-2-COLLECTOR-S-EDITION-XBOX-360-BONUSES_W0QQitemZ250567807726QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVi deo_Games_Games?hash=item3a570152ee):
"*Please Note*: I will be shipping this game on the 25th or 26th but not right after auction ends! I am not allowed to send it that early!"

[Anenome]

Hmm, here's another one from the top three listings (one closes in 4 days, so non issue):
This listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/Mass-Effect-2-Xbox-360-Pre-Order-NEW-SEALED_W0QQitemZ260541768368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVid eo_Games_Games?hash=item3ca97fe2b0) ends in 15 minutes, but look closer at the fine print:
DELIVERED ON RELEASE DAY 1/26/10

Full of shit much Zeal?

Fourth listing: "The game is on order and will arrive in our Warehouse early Febuary (About 2-2-10/2-5-10)"

Fifith: "(Will be delivered to you on Release Date: Jan 26)"

Sixth: "Free Priority Shipping, 1/26 release, Powerseller"

Seventh: "In Hand Ships on release date : 01/26/2010"

Once again, you did a quick Google search and failed to actually read the thread you're quoting, as with the GameFAQs thread.

Release-date broken my ass.

[Anenome]

Even the ME2 Ebay listing that Zeal himself put up has this caveat:
I will ship this item within 2 days of when the auction ends. Thank you
The auction ends on the 25th, putting it safely within the release date of the 26th. It actually looks like the seller is trying to capitalize on someone thinking they can get an early copy. But it won't be.

[Jotoco]

i don't think i'm making myself entirely clear here. i honestly do not give two fucks what you, any moderator, or anyone on this forum wants or requests of me. i find you incredibly annoying and i respect very few posters here. i post out of my own enjoyment and owe nothing to anyone. i chose to take a newer member a picture because i liked his attitude and wished to carry on a conversation.

i am not on any sort of trial here, i have nothing to prove, and i will never ever respect or care what you say. to me, you always will be a kid on a forum who tries far too hard to desperately be accepted by people you will never meet or truly know in real life. simply put, you define irrelevant. you are a new poster with no authority or value.

to show my seriousness, you're going on permanent ignore for the remainder of your stay.

endeth the lesson.

Zeal, Anemone is one of the few I quite respect here, always rational and tries to be as polite as you get on the internet.

You're the one causing trouble. I doubt very much anyone here would accuse you of anything if you came clean and said you pirated it first and then bought it or something.

[jpc_theoneandonly]

Oh Zeal, still yourself I see. In his defense, I actually know a few people that have a copy of ME2 already. They have produced high quality screens as well. One thing that is awesome, when you port your character over from ME1, you can keep him/her looking the same, or change the looks using the character creator.

[Zeal]

Oh Zeal, still yourself I see. In his defense, I actually know a few people that have a copy of ME2 already. They have produced high quality screens as well. One thing that is awesome, when you port your character over from ME1, you can keep him/her looking the same, or change the looks using the character creator.

sup.

i redesigned my character to look just like arnold schwarzenegger. it made the entire game that much more epic. enemies didn't stand a chance.

[Demo_Boy]

Something rude about including "Bending" and "Reach" in the same sentence.

[Dag-Sabot]

Something rude about including "Bending" and "Reach" in the same sentence.I think that was the point.

[ÜberJumper]

The exact opposite is true, actually. Master Chief was the last of an effectively dead breed. He was the final remnant of what many in the Halo-verse deemed a failed experiment. Reach, however, goes back to the heyday of the Spartan project; back to when they were numerous, powerful and brutal.
I'm actually kind of excited to see entire squads and battalions of Spartans running around.

There weren't hundreds of Spartan II's there were just over a dozen. Most on the ground during reach. A few, including John, were in orbit over reach when the covenant fleet jumped in and ripped them a new one. The Spartans in Orbit were about to depart on a mission to capture a covenant ship if I remember correctly. They were re-tasked to recover a nav core from a ship that couldn't follow the cole protocol. John survived, along with Linda, another Spartan II, who was put in Cryo.



You do know it's a prequel, right? And the Spartans in Reach are Spartan IIIs (well most of them) which came after the batch that included the Master Chief (Spartan IIs). This is important because the Spartan IIIs aren't nearly as resilient as the originals. They learned from the mistakes of the first and second batches, and the third batch was cheaper to produce and slightly more expendable. They sent them on missions behind enemy lines (read: suicide missions) because they were easier to make and train.

So, I have a feeling you'll probably watch all of your Spartans die throughout the course of the game.

No.

The spartans at Reach are Spartan II's. The 300 Spartan III's in Alpha company where massacred during Operation Prometheus in 2537. The 300 Spartan III's in Beta company were massacred in Operation Torpedo in 2545. Gamma company, 315 strong (15 stayed on Onyx and escaped to a shield world) were deployed AFTER the Battle of Reach and have not yet been seen in any of the fiction. Delta Company was never started. (This information comes from memory, but facts, operations and dates come from the Halo Wiki)


Ya, except that there's zero evidence except your word that -anyone- has broken the street date. Got a link that shows -any- evidence of a broken street date conclusively online, anywhere? Anywhere? No. There's not. I looked. And your BS about those three cities, where did that info come from? I couldn't find anything about that even searching for it by name. Put up or shut up.

If you actually do produce evidence I will apologize to you, because I'm actually a decent human being. Until then you just plain got caught.

Friend of mine got it yesterday. Street dates are broken :-D

Stop being a timmy.