PS3: Everything We Know

[bapenguin]

1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3148332&did=1) has put together a guide to the PS3. That is, a guide to everything we currently know about the PS3.

Much like the original PlayStation and PlayStation 2, the PlayStation 3 will have strong third-party support, with most major third-party publishers and developers already working on titles for the machine, including EA, Konami, Namco, Capcom, Sega, Ubisoft, Rockstar, Square Enix, Atari, Activision, Midway, and countless others. At last count (TGS, in September '05), the list of Japanese publishers alone numbered 71. Suffice it to say that game companies seem to have every confidence that the PS3 will be just as successful as the PS2, if not more so.
Tons of info in the article. Good one stop shop for the FAQs.

[Doctor Setebos]

Regardless of what the hardware is capable of, all I care about on my gaming machine are the games. That's a strong list of support from developers and publishers, which is exactly the sort of thing that makes me interested. Here's hoping there's more info at this year's E3.

[copasetic]

Regardless of what the hardware is capable of, all I care about on my gaming machine are the games. That's a strong list of support from developers and publishers, which is exactly the sort of thing that makes me interested. Here's hoping there's more info at this year's E3.
fellow iowan, i agree.

[Grimmjow]

fellow iowan, i agree.

i also agree, thats one of the many things that i think made PS so successful was the 3rd party support.

o and the controller :)

[JediSanf]

Apparently it's my turn to run around the forum with boxers on my head screaming that 1UP is Sony's bitch.

Oh, and I'm supposed to mention the "don't buy an X360" article, AGAIN.

Personally, I want to see a price connected to all the pretty pictures.

There, fitbabits, ya happy now? ;)

[Achilles]

I wonder if they’re going to keep that system and controller design. I’m one of the (seemingly) few people who hasn’t written the boomerang off yet, since I haven’t held it, but they sure caught a lot of flack for it.

For games they put everything on there, not just stuff that exists, or will exist. For example they’ve got FFXIII on there even though it hasn’t been announced. And FFVII Remake, which Square said would take them 5 years and a team of 200 people as a reason they probably won’t make the game. So even though there’s some titles on there that I didn’t know about that look interesting (quite a few), it’s got me wondering how many of them are just rumors or fiction.

Many of them also don’t have publishers like Project Offset, Psychopath, and Project M.

Basically that list is fishy.

[TrackZero]

Regardless of what the hardware is capable of, all I care about on my gaming machine are the games. That's a strong list of support from developers and publishers, which is exactly the sort of thing that makes me interested. Here's hoping there's more info at this year's E3.

I care about the games as well. That being said, certain capabilities are not present in all systems to make features I want in said games.

i.e.

360 has Xbox Live, so I know I'll have a better online experience and content additions.

Revolution has it's crazy controller, so I know the games can work some magic with it.

The PS3 has ..... well, no special enhancement that the games can use beyond what the PS2 had, just with better graphics. Colour me uninterested.

Yes, it's somewhat flamebait, but it's how I feel about it and I think it's something to think about.

[bone_matrix]

I care about the games as well. That being said, certain capabilities are not present in all systems to make features I want in said games.

i.e.

360 has Xbox Live, so I know I'll have a better online experience and content additions.

Revolution has it's crazy controller, so I know the games can work some magic with it.

The PS3 has ..... well, no special enhancement that the games can use beyond what the PS2 had, just with better graphics. Colour me uninterested.

Yes, it's somewhat flamebait, but it's how I feel about it and I think it's something to think about.

This pretty much sums up how I feel about the 360, and the other 2 systems. Nintendo is bringing crazy shit to the table, Microsoft has done well with Live, and has impressed the hell out of me with Arcade, themes, etc. Sony has...well, it plays games, right? Is that even confirmed?

edit: spelling

[gzsfrk]

Sounds rather like Sony damage control to me. Regardless of the third party support they can brag about in Japan, if they don't get the PS3 released by this Christmas, Sony's likely not going to be anywhere near as dominant worldwide this cycle as they were last generation.

[Citizen Philip]

Sounds rather like Sony damage control to me. Regardless of the third party support they can brag about in Japan, if they don't get the PS3 released by this Christmas, Sony's likely not going to be anywhere near as dominant worldwide this cycle as they were last generation.

Games make people want a console. Not names.

Unless it is the names of people who make games.

You can have all the cool built-in features.. or extra features you want, but at the end of the day, what are you playing?

[destoo]

Some of the descriptions are just great. Mahjong, Pachinko, Igo and Shogi.. So many games that are probably going to be there at launch and make the system sell like crazy, but we'll never ever see over here.


Yamasa DigiWorld DX
Publisher: TBA
Developer: Yamasa Entertainment
Yet another pachinko game by a company that only makes pachinko games. Oh well. I suppose the Japanese are probably just as mystified at how all this World Series of Poker stuff got popular over here. In any case, it's not coming here.

[Wasson_]

Hurm...yeah.

I don't think that sony has any sort of "problem" ahead at all...

the 360 didn't sell all that great, and I'm quite sure that it has quite a bit to do with people who have their mind made up that they are satisfied with their current gen consols and would rather wait for what they really want- the PS3.

The 360 is and revolution will both be fine products (with a high possibilitiy of the revolution's controller sucking majorly if the technology doesn't work properly, lets all hope it does, because the ideas are really progressive and great.), but most likely in the end, the PS3 will surpass them in popularity. If..it hasn't already. I think their track record speaks for itself.

They seem to know that it's better to build hype and get peoples attention before the relese of a game platform- and wait until someone else comes out with a product. The Saturn came out before the PSone with almost no build up too it, sega jumped the gun big-time and they payed fore it with a great failure, a few years later they did the same thing with the dreamcast...and sony soon after released the again superior PS2, as we all know. Perhaps...the same will happen with the PS3's release? A kind of more gradual, yet major decline in the popularity of the 360, while people shift their attention? IDK, it's just a perspective that has some relevance. personally I don't think that'll happen since the 360 is strong and has some very soild and good games and a good outlook, it's just that....people like their playstation- espesscially in japan.

but really I have no idea...all i know is that I had (and probably still have) a chance to get a 360 this last christmas - and I passed on it.

[Wslove]

Hurm...yeah.

I don't think that sony has any sort of "problem" ahead at all...

the 360 didn't sell all that great, and I'm quite sure that it has quite a bit to do with people who have their mind made up that they are satisfied with their current gen consols and would rather wait for what they really want- the PS3.

The 360 is and revolution will both be fine products (with a high possibilitiy of the revolution's controller sucking majorly if the technology doesn't work properly, lets all hope it does, because the ideas are really progressive and great.), but most likely in the end, the PS3 will surpass them in popularity. If..it hasn't already. I think their track record speaks for itself.

They seem to know that it's better to build hype and get peoples attention before the relese of a game platform- and wait until someone else comes out with a product. The Saturn came out before the PSone with almost no build up too it, sega jumped the gun big-time and they payed fore it with a great failure, a few years later they did the same thing with the dreamcast...and sony soon after released the again superior PS2, as we all know. Perhaps...the same will happen with the PS3's release? A kind of more gradual, yet major decline in the popularity of the 360, while people shift their attention? IDK, it's just a perspective that has some relevance. personally I don't think that'll happen since the 360 is strong and has some very soild and good games and a good outlook, it's just that....people like their playstation- espesscially in japan.

but really I have no idea...all i know is that I had (and probably still have) a chance to get a 360 this last christmas - and I passed on it.

Ok, I'm biting. First off, the 360 sold out in 2 out of the 3 major territories. And despite the fact you think it's still 2001 here's a news flash, Japan not all that important anymore. Makes some kick ass games, has some kick ass companies, but there has been a fundimental shift away from that country as only place where games are produced for a loooooooonnnnnnggggg time now.

Second, you seem to have a bit of non-buyers remorse going on there. You must have bought into the Sony Hype Machine, and now are scrambling to justify your non-purchase decision. As such your current view on reality is a tad off center (and by that I mean you are wearing Sony Hype Goggles. Like beer goggles, only it makes everything look all Sony-fied). Microsoft is off to a great head start, there is trouble in the land of Sony, Nintendo is making a goddamn killing in Japan. Will PS3 be popular? Yes. Will it take the number 1 spot? Depends on certain factors like price, release date, and of course what games they get excusive and out on time. But if you think that Microsoft is going anywhere or that Nintendo is going to be anything but racking in the dough then I suggest you visit a hospital and kindly ask them to remove your head from your ass.

Unless of course you work for Sony, in which case, can't fault somebody for doing their job.

[Vandenh]

Sony better make sure that PS3 in Japan connects to an iPod. :)

[Mason]

Two Mahjong games? PS3 wins, this generation is over.

[thecrazyd]

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Sony is teh suck. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

[Mason]

Hmm, a feature which lists a bunch of possible PS3 games, most of which only have had a spoken sentence or two to support their existence. Right next to their feature "The Xbox 360 vs. the Public Good: Is the Xbox 360 hurting the gaming industry? (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3148314)"

Considering how their "being an ass to Peter Moore" article probably got EGM more positive attention than anything else in their publishing history, I guess they've decided to take the idea and run with it.

edit: I'd just read the title of the piece before I posted this. Now that I've read the piece, I'm convinced that they've adopted an anti-MS editorial stance. See, I told you bastards not to respect them for Hsu's hit piece.

My propaganda-meter was going off all over the place. Microsoft was shooting Sony in the back by releasing early (last paragraph). The weak lineup of last-generation console games the past few months isn't to blame for poor sales, it's all Microsoft's fault. The PS2 launch "wowed everyone", for Christ's sake. Microsoft is taking actions to weaken console gaming in general so that they can benefit in the short term. 360 hardware problems were pervasive enough to be the only notable feature of its launch.

This isn't an accusation of a hidden, covert bias. Maragos comes right out and says it here: he thinks that Microsoft is hurting the industry.

[ElectricMonk]

i really don't think blu-ray is necessary for next-gen games. take a game like doom3, which uses modern compression to store all of it's data. it ends up at 1.5 gb and is a very art-asset heavy game that took 4 years to generate.

games like diablo2 which are huge file-size wise could have been compressed down to a single cd if blizzard had used modern file formats.

even with modern video codecs you could store an hour of hd video on an 8.5gb dvd. what exactly does sony think is going to fill these blu-ray discs?

[Nessus]

The PS2 launch 'wowed everyone"

The image that has been forever burnt into my mind with regard to the PS2 launch is the crappy track and field game with no anti-aliasing which looked worse than most Dreamcast games.

I'd have to mirror a lot of the other respondants' feelings here.

I see clear strategies coming from Microsoft and Nintendo, but all I hear from Sony is "Blu Ray!", which I personally have zero interest in. If it were possible to have negative interest in something, that something would be Blu Ray.

And I'm less excited about the new itterations of franchises which have remained essentially unchanged over the last generation.

I don't know. Initially I had discounted the 360 and decided to wait for a PS3, but more and more I'm questioning that reasoning (my decision is between a 360 and PS3, I'm getting a Rev for sure).

[Achilles]

My propaganda-meter was going off all over the place. Microsoft was shooting Sony in the back by releasing early (last paragraph). The weak lineup of last-generation console games the past few months isn't to blame for poor sales, it's all Microsoft's fault. The PS2 launch "wowed everyone", for Christ's sake. Microsoft is taking actions to weaken console gaming in general so that they can benefit in the short term. 360 hardware problems were pervasive enough to be the only notable feature of its launch.

This isn't an accusation of a hidden, covert bias. Maragos comes right out and says it here: he thinks that Microsoft is hurting the industry.Good find Mason, that article is really bad (360 vs the Public Good). Though I didn’t respect that Hsu interview either, and clearly for the subject of this news story they scraped together the most inflated list of PS3 games they could have without inventing more themselves (though some of them are so out-there they just may have).

It’s amazing how much I agree with you when it doesn’t involve politics.

And no I don’t hate Sony for you anti-anti-Sony guys.

[Vandenh]

but all I hear from Sony is "Blu Ray!",

Well I guess Sony can make more money out of Bluray movies than games (since they control the whole chain of supply). Maybe Sony is going back to their roots as an electronics company and not a gaming company?

I don't really care.. the 360 is a perfect console for me... can't really ask for anything more. The lack of PS3 hardware demos have me worried about Sony. I have seen things like this many times in my professional (software) life and usually a no-show means massive problems. But yeah.. Sony will sell a heap of PS3 anyway... people just blindly believe all the hype. In the end, for us gamers, we can only hope market share will be closer to 30/30/30 this time.

[ElectricMonk]

the thing with blu-ray is i think sony is trying to create their own controlled platform. because that's where the money is. if successful they can make money off of others not only themselves. and they have a history with this sort of thing. they tried it with mini-disc and failed. tried it with umd and had moderate success. now they're trying it with blu-ray.

the problem though is strictly controlled platforms are anti-consumer so they face a hard battle to win. unless hd-dvd is even stricter (http://gear.ign.com/articles/691/691408p1.html) sony will probably fail with blu-ray.

[Wasson_]

That's an interisting article.

um..yeah Wslove...sure. I do not have non-buyers remorse and I'm not particularly won over by any type of "hype" for the PS3, espescially considering I cannot think of any one thing about it that makes it so much better than the 360...other than i don't care so much about any of the games available for the 360 (espescially at launch...) The one thing that needs editing in my post is about the revolution controller, where it says "does" it should say "doesn't", because I very much so want it to work really well and make playing games on the revolution cool, it's just that I have heard that the technology used in it is not quite up to the par that Nintendo seems to be setting, is it? I assure you, I have no idea. All I know is that the Gamecube was never very popular and currently is just a notch over pathetic, the DS is convoluted and unusual...and that the boisterous execs at MS didn't sell nearly as many 360's as they said they would...even if sales were fully acceptable, I don't care. They seemed to have jumped the gun- and as I was pointing out, that can lead to disaster, but it doesn't nessessarily mean it will. So, excuse me if I disagree with you that my head is up my ass...

[Grifter]

Almost every intersting game on that list is multi platform. The few that probably won't be are no more than a title at this point. There are a few games I am interested in that are more than just a title and will be PS3 exclusive but unless they are released within 3 months of the consoles launch I wont be picking one up right away.

The only reason why 360's are "not selling well" in the US and Europe are because MS just can't make them fast enough. (chip yields are a bitch) The same thing happened with the PS2, and Nvidia cards,and ATI cards, and Intel CPU's and AMD CPU's and it will happen with the PS3 it's just the way things go in this industry.The reason it is not selling in Japan (and probably never really will) is because most Japanese gamers just don't like western games or are less willing to give them a try (I don't know I don't live there) where as American and Europian gamers are a bit more open minded when it comes to gaming (it seems). It has very little to do with quality and alot to do with taste.

For me at this moment with all the knowledge that we have the PS3=

No finalized hardware specs
No definative PS3 only launch titles
No Live like service that we know of
Just as powerfull as the 360 (give or take)
No price point
No console launch date
No game info or launch dates

Will some one explain to me why we are still having this stupid fucking debate? maybe we should lock this thread untill after E3 when we might actually be able to compare fact with fact.

[Romuluss]

Ok, I'm biting. First off, the 360 sold out in 2 out of the 3 major territories. And despite the fact you think it's still 2001 here's a news flash, Japan not all that important anymore. Makes some kick ass games, has some kick ass companies, but there has been a fundimental shift away from that country as only place where games are produced for a loooooooonnnnnnggggg time now.

You must be the only kid to still be proud of that little achievement. The 360 sold out because it had most likely the largest shortages of any gaming system to date. As if this has not been said fifty times already, or did you choose to ignore this?


Second, you seem to have a bit of non-buyers remorse going on there. You must have bought into the Sony Hype Machine, and now are scrambling to justify your non-purchase decision. As such your current view on reality is a tad off center (and by that I mean you are wearing Sony Hype Goggles. Like beer goggles, only it makes everything look all Sony-fied). Microsoft is off to a great head start, there is trouble in the land of Sony, Nintendo is making a goddamn killing in Japan. Will PS3 be popular? Yes. Will it take the number 1 spot? Depends on certain factors like price, release date, and of course what games they get excusive and out on time. But if you think that Microsoft is going anywhere or that Nintendo is going to be anything but racking in the dough then I suggest you visit a hospital and kindly ask them to remove your head from your ass.


Why must you and every other xbox fanboy conclude that everyone who didnt hump away at a 360 first chance they got must be under the influence of Sony hype.

even with modern video codecs you could store an hour of hd video on an 8.5gb dvd. what exactly does sony think is going to fill these blu-ray discs?

You awnsered your own question. Not one blockbuster movie ever made by a major movie production studio has ever been an hour long, and you forgot the extra content that 97% of dvd's have nowdays.

[Yeti2005]

I think they could have written a longer article if it was entitled "Playstation 3: Everything we DON'T know". I guess all will be answered at E3 and until then it's just speculation and rumor.

[QueeG-Servo]

Not really interested in fighting a console war. Don't have the time.

**downloads The Outfit Demo, plays Fight Night R3, and starts saving money for what will be a very expensive 360 gaming month**

:D

[fitbabits]

I've read it and I must say there is a stench of ass-kissing. There appears to have been an editorial shift on 1Up recently, and this does nothing to convince me otherwise.

The simple truth is that nothing stated about the PS3 is fact until it is proven. Take the Xbox 360 as an example - the hard-drive as standard on every Xbox 360 was regarded as fact (mostly because it came from J. Allard), but we all know how that turned out.

[JediSanf]

Apparently it's my turn to run around the forum with boxers on my head screaming that 1UP is Sony's bitch.

Oh, and I'm supposed to mention the "don't buy an X360" article, AGAIN.

Personally, I want to see a price connected to all the pretty pictures.

There, fitbabits, ya happy now? ;)

People, I've covered this. You just spent the last twenty posts being redundant.

[fitbabits]

There, fitbabits, ya happy now? ;)
I'm missing something, it seems. :confused:

[JediSanf]

I'm missing something, it seems. :confused:

No, I just remembered your posistion on 1UP last time something like this can up and was willing to jump on this grenade before the argument spun out of hand.

Edit: That means I was trying to be funny.

[fitbabits]

No, I just remembered your posistion on 1UP last time something like this can up and was willing to jump on this grenade before the argument spun out of hand.

Edit: That means I was trying to be funny.
I see, I think!

I have my own theory on the recent editorial content shift on 1Up, but it's best left alone...

[RandomViolence]

I see, I think!

I have my own theory on the recent editorial content shift on 1Up, but it's best left alone...

Come on, fitty! Share! I would love to hear how 1up became a bunch of asshats.

[fitbabits]

Come on, fitty! Share! I would love to hear how 1up became a bunch of asshats.
Only if you let me bite your violent metal ass. :)

[Yeti2005]

I think this is my favorite quote of the article:

"The PS3 controller (often mockingly referred to as the "batarang" or "banana" by critics) will be a great departure from the DualShock-style controllers that have previously been Sony's standard, with a look that's like well, like a batarang or banana."

I hope the editor is kidding and not just kissing up to Sony.

[ElectricMonk]

You awnsered your own question. Not one blockbuster movie ever made by a major movie production studio has ever been an hour long, and you forgot the extra content that 97% of dvd's have nowdays.

I meant what are games going to do to fill the discs.

sewer shark hd?

[Grifter]

Why must you and every other xbox fanboy conclude that everyone who didnt hump away at a 360 first chance they got must be under the influence of Sony hype.

Because only Sony fanboys get pissed at that statement and start calling everyone Xbox fanboys. It's a great tool for weeding out the hacks.



You awnsered your own question. Not one blockbuster movie ever made by a major movie production studio has ever been an hour long, and you forgot the extra content that 97% of dvd's have nowdays.
Because, as we all know the only thing that matters in a gaming console is it's movie playback ability.



Ok trekkie you made your point, now do us all a favor and crawl back into your hole.

[RandomViolence]

Only if you let me bite your violent metal ass. :)

Aww, I'm sad I didn't notice this earlier. My metal ass is there for a reason, boots ma boy! Gnaw on that fucker all you want!

Just gimme the dirt :).