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fitbabits
03-01-2006, 08:37 AM
Thanks to Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net) for the news (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63092).

Bad news for trigger-happy gamers looking forward to the Xbox 360 version of Battlefield 2: Modern Combat - it's been delayed by a month, according to a post on the website of developer DICE.

The post reads: "The launch of Digital Illusions’ game Battlefield 2 Modern Combat for Xbox 360 will be in April 2006." So there you have it.

Presumably there's a little tweaking still to do, and the troops are probably going to need a little encouragement to step out into the fray again for a whole new audience.
Not altogether unexpected, and maybe even a good thing given the upcoming rush of AAA Xbox 360 games.

The Radical Cleric
03-01-2006, 08:43 AM
Indeed. This month is potentially insane - Oblivion, Ghost Recon 3, Blazing Angels, Far Cry Predator, and a PSP RPG Astonishia Story. I feel like I'm forgetting something...

Intruder
03-01-2006, 08:47 AM
Dont Forget the Outfit.

Mortis
03-01-2006, 08:49 AM
Yeah I don't have a problem with this, it would have been April or later before I got around to trying it anyhow.

Gerbs
03-01-2006, 08:51 AM
I think between Ghost Recon, The Outfit, and Oblivion march is pretty well booked. Actually it will probably carry over into April. If Oblivion gets pushed back to April I'm sure I would be devastated, but honestly March would still be a damn good month.

ArkMan
03-01-2006, 09:15 AM
Thank God.

Now there's a 15% less chance my girlfriend will leave me by the end of march. THANK YOU DICE!

bean19
03-01-2006, 09:45 AM
Indeed. This month is potentially insane - Oblivion, Ghost Recon 3, Blazing Angels, Far Cry Predator, and a PSP RPG Astonishia Story. I feel like I'm forgetting something...

Burnout Revenge - someone else said "The Outfit", but I highly suggest renting it as I'm predicting that it will be crap.

Also the PS2 is getting Kingdom Hearts 2. . . and Shadow Hearts 3 (most underated JRPG series - don't buy it if you don't like JRPGs, but do buy it and the two originals if you haven't played them and are a JRPG fan).


Haven't most of you guys gotten this for the PC? If yes, why would you purchase an FPS on a console? I can understand some people buying a console FPS when it is rereleased on the PC, but I can't understand the oppossite. Though, playing on live might be very cool now that I think about it.

phantomhitman
03-01-2006, 09:58 AM
easy
some people dont have pcs for playing games
some people cannot afford to upgrade their pcs
some people dont bother with drivers and game patches
some people are poor and cannot buy a new pc because they are poor <---me
and actually some people prefer the console vesions, I know...take it easy...dont pass out

Zanzibar
03-01-2006, 10:00 AM
This is a first. People saying that an X360 game is delayed is a good thing. I agree, but it's just shocking that the anti-MS brigade haven't arrived here yet.

Lemme pre-empt some of them:

Pumped'Up: "It must be the crappy X360 hardware causing problems."
Sony Syndicate: "It's a waste of time anyways, save your money for a PS3."
Balthasar: "You're wrong. No matter which side you're on, I'm right, you're wrong."

askheaves
03-01-2006, 10:02 AM
I'll throw another reason on that list, phantom. My PC doesn't have enough horsepower to play it and would require something the cost of an xbox360 to get it able to... and at that point, I may as well have a piece of hardware with a 4-5 year lifespan ahead of it and some ass-kicking online features. Also, I like playing games in my living room far more than in my office now.

Cubfan
03-01-2006, 10:16 AM
There's a ton of reasons why someone could justify buying a FPS for a console rather than the PC, likewise, there's an equal number of reasons why someone could justify buying the game for the PC. I'm surprised that a 'gamer-type' posting to this site would ask that question.

Kelegacy
03-01-2006, 10:31 AM
This is a first. People saying that an X360 game is delayed is a good thing. I agree, but it's just shocking that the anti-MS brigade haven't arrived here yet.

Lemme pre-empt some of them:

Pumped'Up: "It must be the crappy X360 hardware causing problems."
Sony Syndicate: "It's a waste of time anyways, save your money for a PS3."
Balthasar: "You're wrong. No matter which side you're on, I'm right, you're wrong."
To be fair, the anti-MS brigade is much smaller and much less vocal than the anti-Sony task force here. A thread about a PS3 game, hardware or anything with the PS3 in it? Suddenly it's negative. And this is one of the only sites I stumble upon the Sony hate.

I've curbed much of my posting--as of late--as a much-delayed result.

Rakael
03-01-2006, 10:41 AM
Eh, do what I do Kel, just dont give a damn. I have a ball on here even though the fanboys on any side are out in force. Its fun to pick at em too. One day I will succeed in making a fanboy's head explode, then I may die in peace.

Besides Kel, I miss your posts.

GrinR
03-01-2006, 10:49 AM
EB says The Outfit is available now!

Is this true? / has anyone played yet?

Mortis
03-01-2006, 10:52 AM
EB says The Outfit is available now!

Is this true? / has anyone played yet?

It ships on the 13th. The demo should be released tomorrow or Friday on the marketplace.

Dr Quincy
03-01-2006, 10:52 AM
Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2: Modern Combat are entirely different games. One is a PC exclusive title, the other a console exclusive.

Intruder
03-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Haven't most of you guys gotten this for the PC? If yes, why would you purchase an FPS on a console? I can understand some people buying a console FPS when it is rereleased on the PC, but I can't understand the oppossite. Though, playing on live might be very cool now that I think about it.
I am a gamer, I dont care what the system is, if it is fun I'll play it.

I think we have hit the mark where console gaming has met and will soon exceed PC gaming in terms of Graphics and Price. The PC is now getting too costly with $400-500 video cards being required to run the newest games. For that price I can get a new console that looks just as good if not better and will be supported without major cost to myself for the next 3 years. One cannot say the same about the PC. Thus is the nature of PC Gaming.

Ill agree, FPS is better on PC just due to the mobility a mouse offers. However Console FPS are damn fun as well, and with Live and a group of good friends a better time has not been had.

I just feel unless the PC costs begin to fall, the new consoles are going to become more and more attractive to more people.

But then again, if you are a true gamer anyways, you wouldn't limit yourself to just one platform. It is just getting harder and harder to keep a PC up and running for the newest games to look uber-sexy. A console now can do it just as well and for much less cost overall.

I am not saying PC Gaming is dead by any means, I just hope they can find a way to make it more affordable in order to compete against today's consoles.

torrefaction
03-01-2006, 10:58 AM
I can't help but think this will hurt sales. I'm going to have a hard time convincing myself to buy this if GRAW is even half as good as it looks. The funny part about this is I skipped BF2 for a while, then I decided to wait for the 360 version. And now, who knows if I'll get it. I mean...The outfit and GRAW, with a COD2 patch coming out real soon.

What do you guys think? Should I get this title?

GrinR
03-01-2006, 10:59 AM
I miss being able to smoothly circle-strafe forever when I'm playing FPS on a PC. I also miss being able to move slowly or fast. Keyboard and mouse simply do not allow that to happen.

Rakael
03-01-2006, 11:03 AM
I am a gamer, I dont care what the system is, if it is fun I'll play it.

I think we have hit the mark where console gaming has met and will soon exceed PC gaming in terms of Graphics and Price. The PC is now getting too costly with $400-500 video cards being required to run the newest games. For that price I can get a new console that looks just as good if not better and will be supported without major cost to myself for the next 3 years. One cannot say the same about the PC. Thus is the nature of PC Gaming.

Ill agree, FPS is better on PC just due to the mobility a mouse offers. However Console FPS are damn fun as well, and with Live and a group of good friends a better time has not been had.

I just feel unless the PC costs begin to fall, the new consoles are going to become more and more attractive to more people.

But then again, if you are a true gamer anyways, you wouldn't limit yourself to just one platform. It is just getting harder and harder to keep a PC up and running for the newest games to look uber-sexy. A console now can do it just as well and for much less cost overall.

I am not saying PC Gaming is dead by any means, I just hope they can find a way to make it more affordable in order to compete against today's consoles.


I am in total agreement.

bapenguin
03-01-2006, 11:06 AM
I've curbed much of my posting--as of late--as a much-delayed result.

Post damn it. I'm now the top poster and I feel DIRTY....DIRTY I TELL YOU!

Intruder
03-01-2006, 11:08 AM
The Outfit looks like it will be a Mayhem filled, but primarily Live game. I don't see much single player value here, but I see insane Multiplayer fun on Live. I could be totally wrong, I havent played the game obviously. From what I have read, all previewers agree that the game is pure fun. The destruction aspect will be fun, not a must buy for just that feature of course but combine that with Destruction of Command (or whatever they call it) it looks to be great.

Want to cross that ravine, drop a bridge on it.
Want to create a strong point, call in some MG nests.

It just sounds like alot of fun to me. Who knows it could be the most craptastic game to hit since Night Trap and Kris Kross:Make my Video.

But then again it could be a gem, we'll know in 2 weeks.

Back OT: The screens don't impress me as much as GRAW (Man I love that acronym, makes me want to listen to Gwar,lol) does, and it will be a certain wait and see game for me. Hopefully it comes out as fun as it's PC brother did.

bapenguin
03-01-2006, 11:10 AM
To be fair, the anti-MS brigade is much smaller and much less vocal than the anti-Sony task force here. A thread about a PS3 game, hardware or anything with the PS3 in it? Suddenly it's negative. And this is one of the only sites I stumble upon the Sony hate.

I honestly believe this is a perception thing. If you are a Sony fan, then it appears as though theres a stronger anti-sony sentiment when it comes up.

If you are a Microsoft fan, then it appears there's a stronger MS/Xbox sentiment when it comes up.

Same goes for Nintendo.

Wherever someone's allegiance lies, there always appears to be a stronger negativity towards that when the time comes.

I think there's just been a lot of negative Sony news over the passed 6 months. Once the PS3 is released and Sony delivers on some of their stuff things will turn around.

Mortis
03-01-2006, 11:12 AM
The Outfit looks like it will be a Mayhem filled, but primarily Live game. I don't see much single player value here, but I see insane Multiplayer fun on Live. I could be totally wrong, I havent played the game obviously. From what I have read, all previewers agree that the game is pure fun. The destruction aspect will be fun, not a must buy for just that feature of course but combine that with Destruction of Command (or whatever they call it) it looks to be great.

Want to cross that ravine, drop a bridge on it.
Want to create a strong point, call in some MG nests.

It just sounds like alot of fun to me. Who knows it could be the most craptastic game to hit since Night Trap and Kris Kross:Make my Video.

But then again it could be a gem, we'll know in 2 weeks.

I think the single player will be pretty fun, but I agree this is going to be primarily a Live game. After seeing some of the recent previews I am very excited about the game, the destruction on demand feature will be kick ass. Can't wait for the demo.

jacktion
03-01-2006, 11:26 AM
This is a first. People saying that an X360 game is delayed is a good thing. I agree, but it's just shocking that the anti-MS brigade haven't arrived here yet.

Lemme pre-empt some of them:

Pumped'Up: "It must be the crappy X360 hardware causing problems."
Sony Syndicate: "It's a waste of time anyways, save your money for a PS3."
Balthasar: "You're wrong. No matter which side you're on, I'm right, you're wrong."



You do realize you are bitching about the fact that no one is bitching. And now I am bitching about you bitching about no one bitching. The internet is awesome.

Kelegacy
03-01-2006, 11:37 AM
I honestly believe this is a perception thing. If you are a Sony fan, then it appears as though theres a stronger anti-sony sentiment when it comes up.

If you are a Microsoft fan, then it appears there's a stronger MS/Xbox sentiment when it comes up.

Same goes for Nintendo.

Wherever someone's allegiance lies, there always appears to be a stronger negativity towards that when the time comes.

I think there's just been a lot of negative Sony news over the passed 6 months. Once the PS3 is released and Sony delivers on some of their stuff things will turn around.
Oh, probably. I'm obviously a Sony fan foremost, but I hate no system. I have problems when all of the consoles, things I despise, but everyone does. I just can't stand the same old statements about lies and conspiracies, blind or ignorant attacks, etc. etc. Maybe I should just start using my ignore list to a large extent. It would make me happier, that's for sure.

And sorry, but you must wear the mantle of top-poster from now on. I'm back into the bar/dating scene, which hurts my post count. I also started working for Worthplaying which cuts into my free time as well. Cabin fever really hurt me this winter and now that I have spring anxiety I'm going buck-wild.

Grimmjow
03-01-2006, 12:08 PM
Thank God.

Now there's a 15% less chance my girlfriend will leave me by the end of march. THANK YOU DICE!

lol so sad! jus cut off your xbox connectionand yo uwill have a 80% less chance of her leaving you!

bean19
03-01-2006, 12:08 PM
There's a ton of reasons why someone could justify buying a FPS for a console rather than the PC, likewise, there's an equal number of reasons why someone could justify buying the game for the PC. I'm surprised that a 'gamer-type' posting to this site would ask that question.

I must have worded my question poorly.

What I am asking is why somoene would RE-purchase BF 2 on the X360 after already owning it and presumably having it play well on the PC? What does the console version offer that is not offered already in the PC version?

This wasn't a snarky PC ownz j00 comment. It was a serious question about why people who already own a version of the game would repurchase what I see as the inferior version (due to having better control on the PC with a mouse).

I totally agree about the X360 and cost issues. My desire to have Oblivion play well was a major reason for my X360 purchase.

MosBen
03-01-2006, 12:20 PM
Somebody mentioned this, but i'll throw it in again. I think the justification for purchasing BF 2 on the PC and then Modern Combat on the 360 is that evidently they're different games. I don't know *how* different, mind you, but that's what i hear.

01010
03-01-2006, 01:13 PM
XBox BF2 plays more like BF 1942 to me than what I've heard of BF2 PC. It's a real fun game but seems quite basic compared to what I hear is in the PC game. Unfortunately my PC can't run it so it's the only BF2 I can play, a nice compromise though, it really is great fun (single player is shite though).

easi
03-01-2006, 02:26 PM
I don't consider ANY game coming up in the next few months for the 360 'AAA'.

Mario, Zelda, Metroid - those are AAA.

Intruder
03-01-2006, 02:34 PM
I don't consider ANY game coming up in the next few months for the 360 'AAA'.

Mario, Zelda, Metroid - those are AAA.

And the comic relief arrives... :D

TrackZero
03-01-2006, 04:31 PM
easy
some people dont have pcs for playing games
some people cannot afford to upgrade their pcs
some people dont bother with drivers and game patches
some people are poor and cannot buy a new pc because they are poor <---me
and actually some people prefer the console vesions, I know...take it easy...dont pass out

Also not to forget that the 360 version looks fucking amazing, there's always that too.

easi
03-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Who cares what it looks like if you have to aim using an analogue stick?

MosBen
03-01-2006, 08:10 PM
Not everybody is bothered by using analogue sticks.

Intruder
03-01-2006, 08:39 PM
How long are people gonna bitch about using the stick to aim? I mean really get over it or move on and bitch about something relevant.

Come on, after Golden Eye, PD, Turok, Halo, Metroid and the multitude of other great FPS on consoles, people still whine about the stick controll...Old news, find something new to whine about.

fitbabits
03-01-2006, 09:11 PM
I don't consider ANY game coming up in the next few months for the 360 'AAA'.

Mario, Zelda, Metroid - those are AAA.
Do you have to practice at being bonkers or were you born with such astounding insight? :rolleyes:

fitbabits
03-01-2006, 09:12 PM
And the comic relief arrives... :D
Woah there, Intruder! 'Comic' would imply that there was some humor in the statement you're referring to. Rampant fanboyism, yes. Humor, not so much.

TrackZero
03-01-2006, 09:44 PM
Who cares what it looks like if you have to aim using an analogue stick?

Thanks troll, go take it to many of the PC vs console threads. Assuming you play games on a console, it doesn't detract from this title as you ALWAYS PLAY WITH A ANALOG STICK. Moron.

KamaItachi
03-01-2006, 10:00 PM
How long are people gonna bitch about using the stick to aim? I mean really get over it or move on and bitch about something relevant.

Come on, after Golden Eye, PD, Turok, Halo, Metroid and the multitude of other great FPS on consoles, people still whine about the stick controll...Old news, find something new to whine about.

You forget that there is a direct correlation between analogue stick usage and the death of highly intelligent sophisticated PC gaming which is being destroyed by consoles. Analogue sticks are the totemic enemy of PC gamers. They represent everything that is wrong with gaming today.

TrackZero
03-02-2006, 04:49 AM
You forget that there is a direct correlation between analogue stick usage and the death of highly intelligent sophisticated PC gaming which is being destroyed by consoles. Analogue sticks are the totemic enemy of PC gamers. They represent everything that is wrong with gaming today.

No, that would be "50 Cent: Get Rich or Die Try'in".

easi
03-02-2006, 09:42 AM
Thanks troll, go take it to many of the PC vs console threads. Assuming you play games on a console, it doesn't detract from this title as you ALWAYS PLAY WITH A ANALOG STICK. Moron.

Unless you play it on PC, where it's meant to be played, maroon.

I love how touchy console fanboys are about the stick thing, it's something they have no answer for and just resort to rolleyes smilies and "are you still going on about that?". Yes, we're still going on about it because it's still an issue. Especially now that more people are using mouse+keyboard on their consoles. Soon your hallowed 'even playing field' will be rife with leetism and cheating accusations, as God intended.

01010
03-02-2006, 10:04 AM
I have an answer for you. Get over it. Seriously, if you want to miss out on some great games just because you are too cack handed to use a controller rather than the K/B Mouse combo then it's your loss.

Personally I have no problems using either because PC games are designed with keyboard and mouse in mind, console games are designed with controllers in mind.

phantomhitman
03-02-2006, 10:14 AM
Unless you play it on PC, where it's meant to be played, maroon.

I love how touchy console fanboys are about the stick thing, it's something they have no answer for and just resort to rolleyes smilies and "are you still going on about that?". Yes, we're still going on about it because it's still an issue. Especially now that more people are using mouse+keyboard on their consoles. Soon your hallowed 'even playing field' will be rife with leetism and cheating accusations, as God intended.

Tell me what advantages a k+m have over a control pad? I can only think of easier aiming accuracy and that is questionable as soon as you get used to the game. Then tell me how the control system of consoles has ruined pc games. I play both, I am just trying to figure out how a console anything has messed up anything pc related.

easi
03-02-2006, 11:21 AM
Deus Ex: Invisible War?

phantomhitman
03-02-2006, 11:52 AM
name a game I played?
and then explain why you like k+m better?
is it that hard?

bean19
03-02-2006, 12:07 PM
name a game I played?
and then explain why you like k+m better?
is it that hard?

Well, I am in the "like them both" crowd, and certainly consoles have more games that are awesome total than the PC.

However, if you let me rephrase your question, this way: "Why is the keyboard/mouse better for FPS games?" then I could answer you.

The keyboard and mouse allow for faster aiming and this allows for faster gameplay. Look at console FPS and the run speeds of both the player avatar and enemies. In Halo, you move like a turtle compared to the movement rate of a player in Unreal Tournament.

The increased control not only improves the game by having good control, but it offers the possibility of fast gameplay that would confound the average console player due to the fact that most players would not enjoy an extremely sensitive and "fast" aiming button. It would be too hard to line up head shots, etc.

However, I think that console controllers play other games tons better than the PC. Platformers, racers, and sports games all control much better with a control pad. Keyboard and mouse are better for FPS, RTS, and strategy games.

These are generalities though. There are obvious exceptions to these statements, but that is the general "rule".

However, my question wasn't meant to start a keyboard/mouse vs. controller conversation.

What I wanted to know was what, if anything, the console version offers that would make someone who owns the PC version (and presumably has it working well on their PC), buy the console version.

TrackZero
03-02-2006, 09:23 PM
Unless you play it on PC, where it's meant to be played, maroon.

I love how touchy console fanboys are about the stick thing, it's something they have no answer for and just resort to rolleyes smilies and "are you still going on about that?". Yes, we're still going on about it because it's still an issue. Especially now that more people are using mouse+keyboard on their consoles. Soon your hallowed 'even playing field' will be rife with leetism and cheating accusations, as God intended.

Console fanboy, LMFAO kid, you know nothing about me, don't even presume. Saying some dumb shit though about your complaints over the console's interface and saying noone will buy it because of this is the height of idoicy for reasons that everyone else here is quite aware of.

And no, it's not an "issue". I play FPS on my PC and console, I enjoy them both. Is the console's control schema better? No, of course not, what retard would think it is? Does that affect it's sales? No, because people play games on both systems for various reasons. So STFU and get over it. Take your hate to the threads already dedicated to it, because it's not a factor in the sales of this game and pointless to this thread.

Edit: FUCK I hate trolls. Go to gamespot where you belong.

easi
03-03-2006, 02:07 AM
name a game I played?
and then explain why you like k+m better?
is it that hard?

That is the most annoying writing style after AOL-speak. If you haven't at least read up on the DXIW situation then you aren't prepared for this argument.

And TrackZero, that was the least coherent post I've read all week. I don't even know what exactly it is you're trying to say in the first paragraph. Also, I'm not a 'kid' although I know you desperately need to believe that.

TrackZero
03-03-2006, 09:08 AM
And TrackZero, that was the least coherent post I've read all week. I don't even know what exactly it is you're trying to say in the first paragraph. Also, I'm not a 'kid' although I know you desperately need to believe that.

Anyone willing to immediately believe I'm a fanboy after one remark isn't even worth furthering this discussion. Take your stereotypes and badly formed opinions elsewhere.

Serapth
03-03-2006, 10:11 AM
Woah there, Intruder! 'Comic' would imply that there was some humor in the statement you're referring to. Rampant fanboyism, yes. Humor, not so much.

Not really fair fit... some things can be funny but oh so wrong. For example, watching old ladies fall on their asses. You know you shouldnt laugh, but damnit, its funny.

phantomhitman
03-03-2006, 10:38 AM
Easi, you must be attached to the left nut of deus ex. I love your opinion about controllers vs k+m but that is it, opinions. You can not prove now, or ever, that either is superior. They are both used by gamers everyday for all types of games and serve their purposes. A game is a fucking game, why bicker about things that will enver change? You obviously play pc games so stay there, hopefully it will calm you down.