Another Day, Another PS3 Delay

[bapenguin]

This time according to NVidia PS3 production is delayed till August (http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20060221A2006.html).

Sony will postpone the launch of its PlayStation 3 (PS3) game console from this spring until August, as the company is facing issues with production plans, according to an earlier report.
It seems the current trend for companies is to announce a PS3 delay.

[saran_js]

Probably just giving their investors some timeline as to when they can expect to receive their paybacks in the mail.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it came out sooner. It'll be a surprise to them and Nvidia's shares would probably skyrocket when it does.

[Tharsis]

I wonder how this potential delay is influencing Nintendo's Revolution? It would seem that Nintendo would have much to gain if they beat Sony to market, even by a few months....

[The Letter 3]

I wonder how this potential delay is influencing Nintendo's Revolution? It would seem that Nintendo would have much to gain if they beat Sony to market, even by a few months....
Not really. Nintendo's selling point is that they are providing a different approach to gaming then Sony or Microsoft. So there are the Nintendo fans that will buy whenever and then there are the people (like me) who will wait and see then possibly get one. Launching before or after the PS3 won't really change that.

[The Letter 3]

It seems the current trend for companies is to announce a PS3 delay.
It's seems the current trend for Sony is to have its head up its ass.

[fitbabits]

This is true - I had a dream last night about the PS3 launching exclusively in Wal-Mart. I think it was inspired by a trip I took there yesterday. You couldn't turn a corner in the place without being reminded of their EXCLUSIVE GARTH BROOKS products.

Anyway, nothing much happened with the PS3. It just sat on the shelves next to the EXCLUSIVE GARTH BROOKS stuff gathering dust!

[Yeti2005]

Not really. Nintendo's selling point is that they are providing a different approach to gaming then Sony or Microsoft. So there are the Nintendo fans that will buy whenever and then there are the people (like me) who will wait and see then possibly get one. Launching before or after the PS3 won't really change that.

I agree that Nintendo has stated that they are not competing with the PS3 and the 360 but I think it would benefit them to launch before the PS3. It's possible people who are waiting for the PS3 would change their mind if the Rev came out and it was fun to play (and cheaper to boot). Nintendo has an opportunity to grab gamers who are on the fence or are too tired of waiting for the PS3. Personally I fall into this group. I want to get a PS3 but if the Rev comes out first and it kicks ass then I'll get that and wait till next year for the PS3.

[Double T]

If games look like this http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/764/764837/vids_1.html

it'll be worth any delay...

[fitbabits]

If games look like this http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/764/764837/vids_1.html

it'll be worth any delay...
You have to be kidding me! The most recent video (crowd test) was horrible. Serious Sam did better, and that was out years ago! Did you happen to notice that there was NO BACKGROUND? No world. Nothing, apart from some random goblins running pre-determined paths and being shot by 'you'.

[overdrivechao]

Oh, who's suprised by this? Spring?! You gotta be kidding me. That was never the actual plan, and everyone should have known it.

[ezzkmo]

What's so hard to believe about the PS3 coming out in Fall? Even if everything was on track and nobody was speaking of delays in production, they'd need the next 6 months or so to finish up some games, start producing units...maybe release it in Japan a few months before the U.S. In my mind it's always been planned for Fall 2006. Anything sooner is too soon because it's not ready and Fall is the best time to release anything anyways. I don't really see a press release or an E3 announcement by Sony saying, "Surprise! We've secretly made 20 millions units already and it's coming out June 5th!" or something like that. That's just unrealistic.

[EternalGamer]

I think Nintendo gets put in a very interesting position, they really do seem to be a wild card here. Nintendo has hinted several times that the Revolution is just going to be similar to a pumped up Gamecube, as it is said to have a "similar architecture" and that developers who worked with the Cube would have "no problem" adapting even without devs kits. This would tend to tell me that they will have a lot less problems mass producing the units than Sony will. More systems available during a shortage of PS3s: Nintendo +1.

Since the first generation software (and even this upcoming 360 generation) probably isn't going to take advantage of the power of the hardware because the real problem is development cycles. Look at the difference between current Xbox software and 360 software. Sure 360 software looks nicer, but if you were just glancing at the two, it doesn't look that much nicer? Some of the more top tier Xbox titles could almost pass as "360 games." When you consider that the Revolution is a more powerful Gamecube (which the developers are already familar with) how much difference are people going to notice when they look at the Revolution software over 360 and PS3 software? My guess is not much, at least for several years until the other two systems are properly tapped. So this means the Revolution will be available for purchase, looks as good or almost as good as the current software on the other two systems and sells for half the price: Nintendo +2.

I'm not saying the above scenario will certainly be the case, but it is likely. I think it really depends on the software Nintendo reveals. They've been pretty good recently at tapping into the unorthodoxed gaming markets with new types of products-Nintendogs, Brain Training, Animal Crossing. We'll see if the Revolution has some software that can do the same.

Dan

[CrysDark]

Wow a whole month and a half delay.

There was a news post here that it would ship in June (which is still spring!) Now to early summer.

Somone call the death squad sony is teh doooooommmmeeed!

[killer_dk]

Project offset ... is at least 2-3 years before it's being released, and it is coming for pc too. It will probably look much better on pc, by that time ;)

[Nadreck]

There were also posts here saying October-November for release. We're all just taking stabs in the dark, and Sony is letting us using the (misguided) marketing ideology so common in the game industry: even bad news is still news.

[Yeti2005]

When you consider that the Revolution is a more powerful Gamecube (which the developers are already familar with) how much difference are people going to notice when they look at the Revolution software over 360 and PS3 software? My guess is not much, at least for several years until the other two systems are properly tapped.

Not to start a Rev vs 360 war but I think you're going to see a BIG difference between 1st gen Rev games in 640x480 resolution (which like you said will be more like a powerful Gamecube) vs 2nd gen 360 games in 1280x720 resolution. That being said the Rev isn't trying to compete from a graphical stand point.

[MasterEvilAce]

LMFAO!!!!
LMFAO!!
Second hilarious news of the day.

Sony: It's not delayed! We are on schedule!
Sony: Okay.. okay... ok... ok... :hides:

[Groo]

Much like the Gamecube now, I don't see the Revolution becoming anyone's "primary" gaming system (except for casual gamers and children). Most gamers are going to either have the X360 or PS3 as their primary gaming console (or in some cases, both), and potentially buy the inexpensive Revolution as a supplemental gaming console (for the Nintendo exclusives).

I feel sorry for anyone whose only mode of gaming was the Gamecube or the N64. I don't see any reason to think that the Revolution won't suffer a similar fate (perhaps the situation will even be exacerbated, because of the weak hardware, and the proprietary controller).

Nintendo is not going to compete with Sony or Microsoft. I don't think that there's any gamer in their right mind who would buy a Revolution instead of a PS3/X360. And if you think graphics don't matter, just wait. If games end up looking anything like those Project Offset videos (which they will, on both X360 and PS3), then you'll be singing a different tune.

[Grimmjow]

its weird to me that everytime some news is brought up about the PS3 being delayed i see the same ol faces spitting in sony face! lets jus wait and see im kinda getting tired of seeing the same folk talk shyt about delays and bleh bleh bleh. Im waiting on Sony's Official word to say "we F**ked up the system being delayed for a lil bit longer",not from other folks and co partners. but im not gona deny they said it may be "possible delays"

[Knite]

its weird to me that everytime some news is brought up about the PS3 being delayed i see the same ol faces spitting in sony face! lets jus wait and see im kinda getting tired of seeing the same folk talk shyt about delays and bleh bleh bleh. Im waiting on Sony's Official word to say "we F**ked up the system being delayed for a lil bit longer",not from other folks and co partners. but im not gona deny they said it may be "possible delays"

While your point is somewhat valid G35TT, you also have to keep in mind that it has been quite common for Sony to state something, and not deliver on exactly what they promised. For them to not say it was delayed, only to have partners (like the video card manufacturer) saying it'll be delayed, only enhances that feeling that Sony's a bunch of liars. Add to that this post being on quite a "sarcastic" newspage, and you can understand the comments being more than plain skeptical.

[Kamalot]

...only enhances that feeling that Sony's a bunch of liars.
I believe the correct term is, "Filthy, Scum-Sucking Liars."

[pavlovscow]

Much like the Gamecube now, I don't see the Revolution becoming anyone's "primary" gaming system (except for casual gamers and children). Most gamers are going to either have the X360 or PS3 as their primary gaming console (or in some cases, both), and potentially buy the inexpensive Revolution as a supplemental gaming console (for the Nintendo exclusives).

I feel sorry for anyone whose only mode of gaming was the Gamecube or the N64. I don't see any reason to think that the Revolution won't suffer a similar fate (perhaps the situation will even be exacerbated, because of the weak hardware, and the proprietary controller).

Nintendo is not going to compete with Sony or Microsoft. I don't think that there's any gamer in their right mind who would buy a Revolution instead of a PS3/X360. And if you think graphics don't matter, just wait. If games end up looking anything like those Project Offset videos (which they will, on both X360 and PS3), then you'll be singing a different tune.

In a weird way I agree, but I still think a simultaneous release of the Ps3 and the Rev will be bad for Sony. For me, its an economics thing. I have an Xbox 360. If the PS3 cost $500 and the Rev cost $250, Im going to buy the Rev first. Ill eventually get the PS3, but probably wait until second gen games and maybe even get a different color!

If people are waiting on the PS3, they are going to get a PS3 anyway. There is no choice in their minds, until they become frustrated by the delays. I think that is why Sony is slowly inching the date back. As long as frothing consumers only think its a few months away, they will wait and not purchase the evil Xbox 360.

[Grimmjow]

While your point is somewhat valid G35TT, you also have to keep in mind that it has been quite common for Sony to state something, and not deliver on exactly what they promised. For them to not say it was delayed, only to have partners (like the video card manufacturer) saying it'll be delayed, only enhances that feeling that Sony's a bunch of liars. Add to that this post being on quite a "sarcastic" newspage, and you can understand the comments being more than plain skeptical.

true i agree what you say 110% but it just gets tiresome people saying the same things over and over! i say hopefully sony learned from there prior mistakes and will fix it this time (HOPEFULLY), i been a sony fan boy (i have no reason to lie) and we all know they fukked up along the way. i just say since the ps3 ca neither make or break sony lets atleast give them a chance to spit out there own info and we be the judge of it when the release is here

[Snipee]

Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to the launch of the PS3 as much as anyone...But nintendo releasing before sony would be quite interesting. Im not sure when the marketing began on each but Im rather sure sony started talking about next gen before anyone else.

[Zurik]

So is anyone going to be surprised when the PS3 is delayed until october? You know they are going to wait until just before christmas to drum up all the frenzy that console makers love.

[fitbabits]

So is anyone going to be surprised when the PS3 is delayed until october? You know they are going to wait until just before christmas to drum up all the frenzy that console makers love.
Surprised? Nope. Elated and ready to scream I-TOLD-YOU-SO at the top of their fanboy lungs? Absolutely.

[Kamalot]

So is anyone going to be surprised when the PS3 is delayed until october?
WHAT?

Blasphemy!

Spring is the official launch. Sony keeps saying so!

[DarkEternal]

We all knew it wouldn't come out this spring. It's too complex.

On that note, I would like to announce that the PS3 has been delayed again...

[overdrivechao]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knite
...only enhances that feeling that Sony's a bunch of liars.

I believe the correct term is, "Filthy, Scum-Sucking Liars."

Better to postpone and be ready than ship defective shit consoles and equally shitty rushed ass games, then make eveyone play retro arcade shit (although i am enjoying that Geometry Wars clone) while the launch titles get pushed back abd back and back. Talk about liars... WTF happened to all the launch titles for the 360?!

This is the same reason most people couldn't care less that things like Zelda GC get pushed back. Just make it good, and take your time.

[Kamalot]

Better to postpone and be ready than ship defective shit consoles and equally shitty rushed ass games, then make eveyone play retro arcade shit (although i am enjoying that Geometry Wars clone) while the launch titles get pushed back abd back and back. Talk about liars... WTF happened to all the launch titles for the 360?!
While I would notmally agree with you, this is obviously a stalling tactic.

Sony KNEW that the consoles wouldn't launch in spring, even better than the rest of us. We knew cause we put together the clues from places like Nvidia.

So either Sony couldn't put together the clues themself, making them clueless, or they lied when they recently said Spring.

I'm voting for the latter.

It is a classic Sony campaign, the same tactic they used before the launch of the Dreamcast. Why get a Dreamcast when you can get a MYSTERIOUS PS2 JUST AROUND THE CORNER. Only thing is they keep pushing the date back again and again, not cause they really intend on launching in Spring, but cause they don't want you to buy the competition's console.

History repeats, and since it worked for Sony last time, why not run the same play again?

[fitbabits]

History repeats, and since it worked for Sony last time, why not run the same play again?
I would like to think that the consumer knows better by now, but history has shown that that's not always the case.